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Where the rubber hits the road. Discussion about drive train; (locking) diffs; wheels; hubs; suspension and, of course, tyres

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Old 04-09-13
Quietguy Quietguy is offline
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Default New tyres, wheel alignment out

Well I bit the bullet yesterday and put a set of 5 Bridgestone 697's on the NW.

$269 a corner and $75 for a 4WD alignment at Taree Bridgestone was a good deal, and I really like the feel of the new rubber.

The original Geolander 602's had done 40,000km and had another 5,000km left in them at least, but as I hope to be off on a longish trip towing the van I thought it best to change now rather than try and get a good price in some out of the way place. (the never used spare is listed for sale in the Market Place)

But here is the rub. They told me they cant get the rear alignment (camber) right as there is just not enough adjustment available since I have 2" lift Lovell springs (and Bilsteins) fitted.

I had an alignment done when I had the new suspension fitted, but I was a bit sus as they only charged $50 and that seemed too cheap for a proper 4WD alignment - although that is what was supposed to be done. Nothing said at that time about running out of adjustment.

So, what do I do? Ruin $1400 worth of tyres? dump the Lovells? Buggered if I know at the moment, so am wondering what others do

Ideas please. I didn't really want the lift, just got it because of the van load and wasn't sure the air bags by themselves would be enough

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white line make bolts to correct some one on here had them fitted.

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Old 04-09-13
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This is normal to run out of camber adjustment with raised springs. My NP is the same, as would be most other peoples NM through to NW Pajeros on here.
The rear camber on mine is not perfect but it is close enough that my rear tyres wear evenly. You will likely be in the same boat.
Cheers, Dan.
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Agree with Dan, raising them does use up most/if not all, of the adjustment at the rear. What can you do -
1. Make sure you are using a trusted, recommended alignment shop. The rear adjustors can sieze, and a lazy tech might just tell you its out of adjustment rather than freeing everything up. Ask the shop you went to for a printout of the settings achieved.
2. Do a few thousand kilometres - most springs will settle a bit, however the Lovells do have a reputation for not changing much, then get another wheel alignment.
3. Get the second wheel alignment done at a different recommended 4wd (preferably Pajero) specialist, and check the alignment. Get a printout of the settings.
4. Add weight in the rear - typically as the rear squats, it comes back into range. This does mean that when travelling, towing your van, the alignment in all probability, will be good. Towing the van is the most likely time when you will chew out your tyres, so having the vehicle setup with good alignment when towing is ideal. In a perfect world, getting a wheel alignment while you have the van hooked up on the back, would be best for tyre longevity, especially if travelling a lot, but not very practical for the alignment shop.
5. Check tyre pressures regularly and don't overinflate, as overinflation may make the inside of the rear tyres wear faster.
6. Rotate tyres regularly. Use all 5. This is probably the most important thing to do.
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Hi Quietguy, Brownie has given you the best advise you will get. He is spot on. Please consider what he has told you. Brian.
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