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  • Mundy55
    Valued Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 921
    • Gold Coast

    #16
    Thanks, Nev. I'll look for it tomorrow

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    • Mundy55
      Valued Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 921
      • Gold Coast

      #17
      Some people raise stupid children. My only excuse is that it was a long day yesterday. Somehow I wasn't using the mulitmeter probes correctly because, contrary to what I said yesterday the most of fuses in the under bonnet fuse box have power connected, albeit permanently. In the passenger compartment, the situation is the same with many of the fuses connected to items which operate independently of the ignition eg fog lights, so they, too, have power permanently connected.

      However, I found an unallocated fuse 21 under bonnet and fuse 10 in the passenger compartment which are ignition switched. Fuse 2 in passenger box is also theoretically usable but the 'make a fuse' connector I have is oriented such that it can't be plugged in as it interferes with the relays above it.

      We continue, 3 steps forward, 2 steps back.
      Last edited by Mundy55; 08-02-16, 07:19 AM. Reason: corrected fuse number

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      • Mike DiD
        Valued Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 927

        #18
        I've tested the voltage drop from the bodywork at the Right Rear 3rd Seat Bracket to the Battery Negative terminal - it's the same as running a 6B&S cable.

        All non-engine electricals - including 10 amp loads like the Rear Demister - have their earth return via the body, so I see no need to do it differently.
        Last edited by Mike DiD; 08-02-16, 11:01 AM.
        Mike R. Sydney. Pajero GLS NX Silver Jan15. DiD Auto. STILL grossly disappointed with the errors in Speed Limits on major roads in my TomTom.

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        • Mike DiD
          Valued Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 927

          #19
          The NW and NX now reduce the Alternator voltage when the battery is full to avoid overcharge and to reduce energy wastage, by sensing the current flowing through the battery.

          You can see the sensor in the Ground Lead near the Negative Terminal of the Battery.

          It's easy to ensure that the voltage does not drop until the Auxiliary Battery is charged, by connecting the Negative of the Auxiliary to the Negative Terminal of the Starting Battery, instead of to Ground. This means Auxiliary charging current will flow through the current sensor.

          If you are using a DC-DC charger, this isn't needed.
          Mike R. Sydney. Pajero GLS NX Silver Jan15. DiD Auto. STILL grossly disappointed with the errors in Speed Limits on major roads in my TomTom.

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          • pauld
            Valued Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 2222
            • Melbourne

            #20
            My NX has the 2nd battery to the body and I monitor the alternator voltage, it very rarely drops.
            2015 NX, ARB Bullbar, Bilstein / Lovells HD Front and Kings SP Rear, Polyairs, 17" NP Exceed wheels, D697 LT265/65/17, STEDI Cree 24" 120Watt light bar, Tracklander 2100 Roof Cage, Bushskinz side steps and bash plates, 200AH of Batts under rear floor via Redarc 40 Amp, cargo barrier with custom rear shelf up high, TC mod, EGR mod, catch can, iPhone4 with OBD app, USB ports in all 3 rows, custom storage in rear passenger guard.

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            • cprand
              Junior Member
              • May 2010
              • 10
              • Doreen Vic

              #21
              I have a volt meter on the main and second battery on my NX and the voltage varies from 14.4 down to 13.8 depending on whether you are on the accelerator or not. Its a good idea about the earth wire.

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              • Mundy55
                Valued Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 921
                • Gold Coast

                #22
                I thought it worth making a point about using a "make a fuse". The MAF has a common positive leg for the 2 fuses it holds and it's important to orient it correctly so that the common leg of the fuse goes into the positive side of the fuse holder. If the MAF is oriented the other way, the current flows through both fuses to the new device, which could cause the original fuse to blow. The way to check is to initially install the MAF with only the new fuse in place without the original fuse. If you aren't getting power then its the wrong way around.

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                • KPJero
                  Member
                  • May 2019
                  • 127
                  • QLD

                  #23
                  Just a quick dumb question, if (and when) I get a second battery in the bonnet, is there any issue with running some cables with anderson plugs to the rear of my pajero? The idea would be that I can either connect a fridge (when and if) I ever get one or power other accessories.

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                  • Dicko1
                    Valued Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 7637
                    • Cairns, FNQ

                    #24
                    Originally posted by KPJero View Post
                    Just a quick dumb question, if (and when) I get a second battery in the bonnet, is there any issue with running some cables with anderson plugs to the rear of my pajero? The idea would be that I can either connect a fridge (when and if) I ever get one or power other accessories.



                    None. Just ensure you get good size cable...say 6B&S and put an appropriate fuse..say 50amp near to the battery on the positive wire. If you want to run wire internally to use a fridge you can get away with just running one length of 6b&s POSITIVE and use the body for an earth near the anderson plug. I have my setup like this and it runs 2 dc/dc chargers and several sockets in the rear
                    Dicko. FNQ

                    2014 NW with all the usual stuff plus more.

                    TIME....1000 times more valuable than money

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                    • KPJero
                      Member
                      • May 2019
                      • 127
                      • QLD

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Dicko1 View Post
                      None. Just ensure you get good size cable...say 6B&S and put an appropriate fuse..say 50amp near to the battery on the positive wire. If you want to run wire internally to use a fridge you can get away with just running one length of 6b&s POSITIVE and use the body for an earth near the anderson plug. I have my setup like this and it runs 2 dc/dc chargers and several sockets in the rear
                      Thank you.
                      Too many projects in my brain and not enough money!

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                      • Old Paj
                        Pajero Club Life Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 356
                        • Heathcote, Vic

                        #26
                        Second Battery

                        I have been running a second battery (AGM) under the bonnet now for nearly 3 years (fitted less than 1 month after purchase).

                        Have and currently continue to have an Anderson plug run to the rear (for camper trailer fridge) and have a duel port merit connection in the rear of the Paj to run an Engel on an MSA drop slide.

                        All giving, and continuing to give excellent service.
                        NX Pajero, Duel Batteries (under bonnet), Factory Nudge Bar, Kings Springs, Bilstein Shocks, TowPro Elite, Icom IC-450, Cooper ST-Maxx Tyres (off road), AutoMate, towing 2015 Vista Crossover XL.

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                        • Detonator
                          Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 143
                          • Traralgon

                          #27
                          Ctek 250s

                          The Ctek you need is a Ctek 250SA.
                          The SA denotes smart alternator.
                          If you already have a Ctek 250S you can still use it but it needs a relay added to the circuit.
                          See attachment for details
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