NL factory tyre options-for legality

[disco stu]

Thanks. No idea why I couldn't find that earlier. Highlights a difference between brakes on exceed/gls and others in that thread, which goes against what the regs say about brakes and suspension being the she as the variant with the larger diameter tires

[disco stu]

Sorry, add another question to this. Mechanic mentioned something ages about tyres needing to be under certain age for blue slip, which this car will need. Anyone know what that age limit is? Not getting any help through Google

The tyres are dated 4011, putting it about October 2011.

[pharb]

There is no age limit.

Lots manufacturers have "recommendations", but there is no actual age limit.

If your mechanic is suggesting there is ask to see the requirements.

This is not to say they don't age, but there are a huge amount of variables that will shorten the life of a tyre, not just the calendar.

Same applies to most if not all rubber based components.

[disco stu]

Cheers pharb. This guy is one of the few mechanics I trust and just passes the car and tells me to fix it-"I've passed it but make sure you replace that tie rod end asap" is pretty typical. So he isn't the sort of guy who picks up on any little thing that isn't a safety issue.

I think I'm better just giving him a call tomorrow to check, I might have heard him wrong

[disco stu]

Just spoke to mechanic. He said 10 yrs for blue slip, no one normally bothers about age for pink slip

[pharb]

As a mechanic since 1990, but having worked in the area of transport safety and compliance for the last 15 years I have yet to see a rule that designates a limit in tyre age.

I would really like see the requirement that this mechanic is referring to.

Please don't take this as a challenge but a genuine interest in finding a definitive rule about this 10 year age limit.

[disco stu]

I'm wondering if it's a NSW thing. I've noticed they don't have the info available on things checked during inspections, that would make it to easy

[Just Cruzin]

As a mechanic since 1990, but having worked in the area of transport safety and compliance for the last 15 years I have yet to see a rule that designates a limit in tyre age.

I would really like see the requirement that this mechanic is referring to.

Please don't take this as a challenge but a genuine interest in finding a definitive rule about this 10 year age limit.

I'm a pleb and even I know about the 10 rear rule. retailers aren't allowed to fit new tyres over 5 years old to give the end user at least 5 years of use.

[old Jack]

I am yet to see proof of a definite age time limit or expiry date requirements on tyres in Australia, however manufacturers and some tyre repairer/installers are recommending/enforcing the 5 or 6 year rule as company policy. This is to protect then from any come backs. In regards to a RW inspection, tyres that show signs of age deterioration can cause refusal but this is a subjective assessment rather than a much easier expired date to determine the roadworthiness of the tyre.

OJ.

[Just Cruzin]

It's like all dealings with a Government department, 5 people will give you 5 different opinions and not one of them will put it in writing.

[pharb]

It's like all dealings with a Government department, 5 people will give you 5 different opinions and not one of them will put it in writing.

And that is the issue with dealing with bureaucracy.

If it ain't in writing it ain't true.

From NSW RMS themselves -

https://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/stayingsafe/vehiclesafety/tyres.html

".......5 years......may need replaced....."

[pharb]

I am yet to see proof of a definite age time limit or expiry date requirements on tyres in Australia, however manufacturers and some tyre repairer/installers are recommending/enforcing the 5 or 6 year rule as company policy. This is to protect then from any come backs. In regards to a RW inspection, tyres that show signs of age deterioration can cause refusal but this is a subjective assessment rather than a much easier expired date to determine the roadworthiness of the tyre.

OJ.

Agree.
If I was a tyre retailer I wouldn't be selling tyres older than 5 years either to cover my own butt, as well as spruiking replacing tyres after 5 years so I could sell more tyres.

[pharb]

I'm a pleb and even I know about the 10 rear rule. retailers aren't allowed to fit new tyres over 5 years old to give the end user at least 5 years of use.

As a heavy vehicle enforcement officer for 10 years I reckon I was called a pleb a few times, as well as quite a few other names



From the Australian Tyre and Rim Association, whose documents I think are referred to in the ADRs -

https://tyreandrim.org.au/is-tyre-age-important/

".....any tyre over 5 years old should be checked regularly ..........."

[disco stu]

Cheers all. That was all I could find on age as well pharb-check tyres that are over 5yrs old. Nothing about not being able to use them after certain time

[disco stu]

Another question. Can anyone tell me what other cars use the same hub size as gen 2 wheels? I seem to keep finding conflicting information on forums. Can't seem to find a database or list that has this information

Trying to keep an eye out for alternative wheels second hand