4M41 chain guide need doing?

[Talisker]

I have a question I had my tappets adjusted 5k km ago at around 90k km. I just read that you should have the top guide changed ( not checked but changed as they fall apart ?) now I cant find anything to say whether they changed the guide they diudnt tell me they did and there is no parts cost for it, the job was done at a Mitsu dealer who was refferred to me as having an excellent reputation.

Now I think I should get this guide changed to be certain its been done, what do others think?

[Talisker]

Sorry it may be obvious but i notice i never said this is about the timing chain guide apologies.

[Sirius]

Hi mate, mine is a 2013 and the guide got changed under a recall. Might be worth chasing up whether yours got done.

[Talisker]

Mine is a 2014 an I checked on the Mitsu site on my vin and the only recalls which have been completed were for the airbags. I will have to have a chat to the dealer if it hasnt been done I aint going to pay them again and it seems straight forward enough to complete so may just have to do it myself still if they didnt change it when they did the valves or they dont know it will be annoying

[BruceandBobbi]

No need to change the guide. Chain guide was sorted from the NS on.

The recall was for the chain tensioner.

[Sirius]

The recall was for the chain tensioner.[/QUOTE]

100% correct. Sorry my memory is foggy at the best of times.

[Jasonmc73]

I have a question I had my tappets adjusted 5k km ago at around 90k km. I just read that you should have the top guide changed ( not checked but changed as they fall apart ?) now I cant find anything to say whether they changed the guide they diudnt tell me they did and there is no parts cost for it, the job was done at a Mitsu dealer who was refferred to me as having an excellent reputation.

Now I think I should get this guide changed to be certain its been done, what do others think?

Pajero mechanic all he works on, advised me 200,000k's change the guide 4M41 engine & check at every valve setting.

I also believe you can see it through the oil cap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlU5EsYs9-0

[Talisker]

Thks Jasonmc73 I am going to try an have a chat with the Mitsu delaer did the valve adjustment I will report back here on what they say. Many Thanks

[BruceandBobbi]

Pajero mechanic all he works on, advised me 200,000k's change the guide 4M41 engine & check at every valve setting.

I also believe you can see it through the oil cap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlU5EsYs9-0

This is not a shot at you mate. You are just the messenger.

I/we have been posting here 3 1/2 years and reading the board a few years longer. In that time I can't recall a chain guide needing to be replaced from the NS on. Yes the NM NP were notorious for it before MM came up with a replacement guide which I believe is still in use today.

Any mechanic that tells you the guide needs to be replaced every 200,000k and check at every value setting is one i would not be going to.

There are many CRD on here with well over 200,000k with the original guide. Ours has over 330,000k. Some have a lot more.

Unfortunately there are 'mechanics' and mechanics.

The greatest purveyor of in this world is the internet.

[Patagonia]

No need to change the guide. Chain guide was sorted from the NS on.

The recall was for the chain tensioner.

This is what I remember also.

Anyways, you can take a look at the tensioner through the oil cap, using a drntist mirror or similar.

[Keithyv]

There was a recall for tensioners right up until early NWs but nothing for guides for later models.
Mine is just too new to miss out.

https://www.productsafety.gov.au/recall/mitsubishi-motors-australia-limited-0714-model-year-pajero-diesel

[Jasonmc73]

This is not a shot at you mate. You are just the messenger.

I/we have been posting here 3 1/2 years and reading the board a few years longer. In that time I can't recall a chain guide needing to be replaced from the NS on. Yes the NM NP were notorious for it before MM came up with a replacement guide which I believe is still in use today.

Any mechanic that tells you the guide needs to be replaced every 200,000k and check at every value setting is one i would not be going to.

There are many CRD on here with well over 200,000k with the original guide. Ours has over 330,000k. Some have a lot more.

Unfortunately there are 'mechanics' and mechanics.

The greatest purveyor of in this world is the internet.

Each to there own mate, cheers all good, everyone is different as always

[Skinny03]

Hi Talisker,

I have a 2014 NW that just clicked over 100k. While cleaning the egr and intake manifold I took off the rocker cover and changed the chain guide. The original had virtually no wear and I was surprised considering the talk floating about. I would have been happy to leave it in for another 100=200k. From what I understand the earlier ones did wear, when they were upgraded im not sure.

I hope my two cents helps.

[BruceandBobbi]

I can't believe this furphy is still going around but I guess that's the internet and mechanics that have no idea.

As above original top chain guide was a problem on NP and NM and replaced free. It has never been a problem from NS on.

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[GHendo]

… original top chain guide was a problem on NP and NM and replaced free. It has never been a problem from NS on.

I don’t know about them being ‘replaced free’. Mine never had a recall for it and the dealer never mentioned anything about it. I replaced mine myself after seeing it mentioned on the forum. When I pulled it out the old one fell apart in my hand. The new ones look a bit different so I presume they are an improved design. I noticed that MM now have upped the price of a new guide from around $20 (when I replaced mine) to something like $70.

Geoff