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  • Shifty
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 165
    • perth

    #16
    perhaps the sump or block has a hairline crack? is it leaking from the back or middle of the sump?

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    • TheBanana
      Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 119
      • Brisbane QLD

      #17
      The head gasket could have a split in it and letting oil out of one of the galleries
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      • Roughasguts
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 70
        • Nsw

        #18
        Take both bash plates off and de grease the motor and driveway! start car, leave it run for a while or go for a slow drive! and park once again over night with plates still off!

        And then you might get a better idea of where the drip is comming from! without the bash plates pooling and dripping oil in another location.

        Cheers.

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        • GSRSOL
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 279
          • Melbourne

          #19
          Originally posted by pajeroman3lt View Post
          Engine breather blocked? Had problems with mine after installing a catch can and oil pissed out everywhere.
          cleaned out the breathers and have installed a catch can so i dont think it can be that?

          Originally posted by Shifty View Post
          perhaps the sump or block has a hairline crack? is it leaking from the back or middle of the sump?
          I dont think its a crack anywhere, its leaking from the front of the sump; its not one of the seals behind the timing cover as everything in there is dry.

          Originally posted by TheBanana View Post
          The head gasket could have a split in it and letting oil out of one of the galleries
          theres no oil or leaks coming from higher above the sump gasket....

          Originally posted by Roughasguts View Post
          Take both bash plates off and de grease the motor and driveway! start car, leave it run for a while or go for a slow drive! and park once again over night with plates still off!

          And then you might get a better idea of where the drip is comming from! without the bash plates pooling and dripping oil in another location.

          Cheers.

          the leak is at the front of the sump..... maybe the sump itself is bent or warped and hence why its not sealing properly there?


          Should also mention, I had a compression test done and the engine is in great shape. Turbo is also OK, although a rebuild wouldnt be a bad idea.
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          • Exceeder
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 33
            • Hobart TASMANIA

            #20
            Are the sump bolts over-tight? Ive done this in the past on a L28, and it warped so much I had to re-install the whole thing after straightening it out for a few hours.

            Cork gaskets and sealant made for a 'flexible' seal, Im pretty sure the sump and block don't expand at the same rate either... so once warm, no leak. Cold.. it would leak.

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            • Pauly Faulkner
              Valued Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 6561
              • Maitland, NSW

              #21
              Throw some tracer dye in there and degrease the engine down.
              Take it for a slow drive for 10-15 minutes without exceeding 50km/hr and let it rest for a couple hours.
              Grab a uv torch or uv lamp off ebay and go at it.

              Does sound like it's warped or something along those lines at the front of the sump.
              The uv dye will pin point it's exact location for you much easier then checking for weep spots.

              Another option is to tape paper towel over the supected area or throw talc powder all over it. These options also help. They require a clean and completely dry surface to be ideal though.
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              • Pauly Faulkner
                Valued Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 6561
                • Maitland, NSW

                #22
                One 25ml bottle of dye will mix with up to 8-10 litres of petrol engine oil, 3-5 litres of diesel engine oil, 10 litres of hydraulic fluid and 15 litres of petrol/diesel fuel. Ultra Violet leak detection dye for fuel and oil leaks.
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                • dolphin
                  Valued Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3324

                  #23
                  i feel the cure for this leakage problem other than buy another sump pan is to apply a thicker bead of silicon which will assist in the seal of a not to true surface . the method is to apply the sealant bead to sump so its approx 5 mm thick and leave it skin up for a good 2 hours then fit the sump and evenly tension all bolts by hand pressure snug and leave for another 1 x hour before you apply more even tension by hand snug . leave this until the next day and tension down all bolts in a diagonal criss cross fashion [ like tensioning down a cylinder head ] don,t over tension , just make sure all bolts are very snug and the gap between the sump pan and block base is around 2mm . re check all bolts in 1 x week . my favoured sealant is Black Silastic which is also high temp rated plus oil proof.
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                  • Rocket10
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 47
                    • Geelong

                    #24
                    just wondering if flange gasket sealer would fix the problem

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                    • big mik
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 335
                      • Adelaide

                      #25
                      Looks like a bent sump, but I would expect it to seal with enough sealant on it. I would reccomend sicoflex too, but it will be a real swine to get off if it doesn't seal that time. Any sumps at local wreckers?
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                      • GSRSOL
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 279
                        • Melbourne

                        #26
                        Yep I reckon a bent sump might be the cause... but its a little wierd, i havent bashed it on anything ever and this leak just appeared out of nowhere really....

                        ill have to go sump hunting.
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                        Daily = 2006 NP Pajero VR-X DiD

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                        • Kingbrown
                          Valued Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 1779
                          • Port Augusta - SA

                          #27
                          The Threebond goo is supposedly very good stuff, with the benefit that you don't have to let it skin over before assembly. Just a thought.
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                          • GSRSOL
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 279
                            • Melbourne

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Kingbrown View Post
                            The Threebond goo is supposedly very good stuff, with the benefit that you don't have to let it skin over before assembly. Just a thought.
                            which one are you talking about? theres a few different ones
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                            • Kingbrown
                              Valued Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1779
                              • Port Augusta - SA

                              #29
                              The 1207C was recommended in another post (use the Search feature).

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