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  • aldavnic
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 250
    • Pakenham

    #31
    it doesnt look like that anymore
    Nice vehicle though!
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    • Pickle
      Administrator
      • Jun 2007
      • 6886
      • All over Oz

      #32
      Originally posted by aldavnic View Post
      it doesnt look like that anymore
      Nice vehicle though!
      Actually it cleaned up rather nice after 3 hours work on it. There was a ton of dust in it
      Dave
      NX Pampas Cat GLS MY16
      Member 1228 Pajero Club

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      • Pickle
        Administrator
        • Jun 2007
        • 6886
        • All over Oz

        #33
        Old meets new!



        Dave
        NX Pampas Cat GLS MY16
        Member 1228 Pajero Club

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        • Pickle
          Administrator
          • Jun 2007
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          • All over Oz

          #34
          Through the Crooked River!



          Dave
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          Member 1228 Pajero Club

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          • Pickle
            Administrator
            • Jun 2007
            • 6886
            • All over Oz

            #35
            Having a rest at Talbotville.



            Dave
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            Member 1228 Pajero Club

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            • Pickle
              Administrator
              • Jun 2007
              • 6886
              • All over Oz

              #36
              On the Crooked River Track.



              Dave
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              • Pickle
                Administrator
                • Jun 2007
                • 6886
                • All over Oz

                #37
                On Blue Rag!



                Dave
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                • Pickle
                  Administrator
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 6886
                  • All over Oz

                  #38
                  On the way to Blue Rag summit.



                  Dave
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                  • Pickle
                    Administrator
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 6886
                    • All over Oz

                    #39
                    My group on Blue Rag !



                    Dave
                    NX Pampas Cat GLS MY16
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                    • Pickle
                      Administrator
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 6886
                      • All over Oz

                      #40
                      So how did it go?

                      The new PB Challenger is certainly a great goer. On road it was quiet inside once up to speed and performed well. Although I did think it was a bit noisier in the engine department. I drove the auto Triton recently with the same running gear and it did seem a little quieter.
                      Finish on the vehicle is excellent with everything you need at hand. Great climate control and nice firm seats makes long distance driving comfortable. Steering needs a bit of getting used to as you need to put that extra turn in around corners but it does have a good turning circle.

                      Off road it is in another league. I though the Challenger would be reasonably capable off road. With it great departure and approach angle as well as 220 mm of ground clearance it more than impressed me. It tackled all of the tracks we did without batting an eye. Doing Blue Rag with the difflock off and the traction control not needed was a testament of how well it tackled some of the harder stuff. And not bottoming out on the way up was a bonus as well although we did take a hit going up Billy Goat due to an incorrect line. The Dunlop Grandtreks were exceptional offroad. I had dropped the pressures to 26 psi all round and they survived really well considering a lot of sharp rocks are found on these tracks.
                      Overall the Challenger is a great package. If you like your offroading this will be quite capable in standard form and still have the on road manners to be mums shopping trolly.
                      Impressed, you betcha! I can see one in my driveway in the near future.


                      Tracks done: Macguires/ Hibernia/ Randalls/ Crooked River/ Station/ Cynthia Range/ Eaglevale/ Billy Goat/ Castle Creek/ Trails/ Blue Rag/ Basalt Knob Nth/Brewery Creek and through about 54 river crossings.

                      Total klms travelled 1203
                      On road klms 676
                      Off road klms 527

                      Fuel ltrs/ 100klms
                      On road 11.6
                      Off road 13.1

                      Dave Howard
                      Technical Officer
                      Pajero 4WD Club of Vic

                      Note :Edited version!
                      NX Pampas Cat GLS MY16
                      Member 1228 Pajero Club

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                      • Ranger J
                        Valued Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1200
                        • Perth, Western Australia

                        #41
                        Nice work Dave, I was eagerly awaiting the review. Couple of quick questions.

                        How did you find the torque of the 2.5 with the extra weight of the challenger?
                        How is the low-range gearing suited to the vehicle?
                        How did the suspension perform?

                        The Challenger would be more appealing (to me anyway!) if it was fitted with a side opening rear door and spare wheel fitted to the rear of the vehicle, really turns me off when they tuck it up underneath.
                        NP GLS DID Auto: ARB Bar, Warn XD9000, Rear ARB Locker, Dobinsons, Bilsteins, 33" BFG MT's, 61Lt Sub Tank, Striker 170's, Dual Batts, etc. etc. etc.

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                        • Pickle
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                          • Jun 2007
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                          • All over Oz

                          #42
                          Ok your first question is a gnarly one!
                          I felt it was lacking a bit behind the auto on the road. Although in it's defence after I cleaned the air filter it did perform a little bit more spritely. After driving the Triton auto it felt more suited to the box. Although only 40 odd kilo difference in weight and both with the same running gear the Triton just felt like it had more go.
                          In lo range the Challenger was spot on. It felt like it had the right gearing and whatever I went up it did it with ease. This is really where it felt like the right combination.
                          Suspension felt firm, actually it felt more Triton in the rear end. Although I think the firm suspension really saved us from bottoming out on a lot of track. Certainly wasn't uncomfortable in firmness.
                          Dave
                          NX Pampas Cat GLS MY16
                          Member 1228 Pajero Club

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                          • Ballfyboy
                            Valued Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 594
                            • Brisbane

                            #43
                            Thanks for the review Dave, I look forward to doing some of those tracks myself soon. I take delivery tomorrow! Can't wait. With a few mods I think they will be unstoppable.
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                            • Gus
                              Administrator
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4074
                              • Traralgon. Vic

                              #44
                              Great stuff Dave..
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                              • 900canoes
                                Valued Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 702
                                • FNQ

                                #45
                                Thanks for the review Dave, how does one get the un-edited version?
                                EDIT: The noise comparison to the Triton; do you think it would be that the rear axle is under the cabin in the Challenger rather than being 'outside' under the Triton tray?


                                The Challenger would be more appealing (to me anyway!) if it was fitted with a side opening rear door and spare wheel fitted to the rear of the vehicle, really turns me off when they tuck it up underneath.
                                I tend to agree there Ranger, would like to think that at least, a 'bolt on' wheel carrier would become available before too long. The PA model had one available in some countries and if the empasis is now more on 4WDing with this model then a rear carrier should be made available as an option or even aftermarket add on.
                                Last edited by 900canoes; 29-01-10, 06:41 AM.
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