New to all this fancy stuff

[twitchie88]

Hey guys
So in my introduction post I explained i was waiting in delivery for my 2001 duel fuel NM manual pajero, well ive picked it up and my lord its so comfortable to drive!

Ive got a good little todo list starting up
Ie
Lift
Tyres
Snorkel
Bar
Lights
Head unit
Possibly even build myself a little set of draws in the bag to carry my spare screws,drill bits etc

I do have a few questions about these fancy cars tho
(Im used to gq patrols)

Number 1
As this is my daily work car and being a tradie when winter hits so does the mud in the cars, so my question is

Is there any places out there that make vinyl floors for the NMs?
Or will it be the matter of having no carpet and just some sound dentinor pant?
(I really dislike floor mats)

Number 2
Winter will more than likely hit before i get to lift her and will need some nice ATs to be able to drive in and out of jobsites.

What are the biggest size tyres to safely run on standard suspension?

Number 3
Im not wanting to do serious 4bing anymore just more lighter fun stuff with some good challenges that require more thinking and technique rather than just a heavy foot and not caring about about damage and also With out having to try get a sponsorship from shell or bp
SO

After ive lifted it are 32 ATs safe to run on ifs and irs without having to do major works to the cvs and without having to fuel up every 200ks?

Many thanks in advance for answer my more than likely stupid questions.




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[nj swb]

I can't really help with questions 1 & 2, but the answer to question 3 depends on how far you intend to lift it.

Most of us run lift around the 50mm mark, probably less, which is more than adequate for 32" tyres. At these levels of lift Mitsubishi CVs (front and rear) are OK, and fuel consumption penalty is probably in the order of 1 - 2 l/100km (which includes the impact of the more aggressive tyres). To get much more lift than this will probably have wider ranging effects than just your CVs.

[twitchie88]

I can't really help with questions 1 & 2, but the answer to question 3 depends on how far you intend to lift it.



Most of us run lift around the 50mm mark, probably less, which is more than adequate for 32" tyres. At these levels of lift Mitsubishi CVs (front and rear) are OK, and fuel consumption penalty is probably in the order of 1 - 2 l/100km (which includes the impact of the more aggressive tyres). To get much more lift than this will probably have wider ranging effects than just your CVs.

Thanks nj
Ill be looking at getting a 2inch (50mm) lift
As for my tyres id honestly probably only get some nice agressive ATs



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[Scouter1]

Is there any places out there that make vinyl floors for the NMs?
Or will it be the matter of having no carpet and just some sound dentinor pant?
(I really dislike floor mats)

Have you had a look at the Sandgrabba option https://nobullaccessories.com.au/pro...i-sandgrabbas/? I know you mentioned disliking mats but I have run a full set in my vehicle for nearly three years https://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum...5&postcount=29 with some very muddy/snowy/sandy shoes inside and have only had to pull them out 2-3 times for cleaning after big trips. I am a Venturer Scout leader with a fairly active unit so regularly have a lot of dirty teenagers in the car after bushwalking canyoning & xc ski trips. So far I haven't had any leakage into the carpet during this time.

I have driven commercial vehicles in the past with vinyl floors and would say the moulded mat system is nearly as good in regards to staying in place & protecting the carpet underneath. There is a good clip system holding them in so they just don't move unless you pull them out. I can imagine they are a fair bit cheaper than getting a custom floor made up, and work a hell of a lot better than using old conveyor belting or similar material. Definitely worth thinking about.

Cheers,
Stephen

[nedkelly05]

The new BF Goodrich KO2 all terrain tyres are really good in my opinion, and a worthwhile option when looking at tyres. 275 65 16 are a good all round size without going bigger and risking scrubbing on the guards.

[twitchie88]

Have you had a look at the Sandgrabba option https://nobullaccessories.com.au/pro...i-sandgrabbas/? I know you mentioned disliking mats but I have run a full set in my vehicle for nearly three years https://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum...5&postcount=29 with some very muddy/snowy/sandy shoes inside and have only had to pull them out 2-3 times for cleaning after big trips. I am a Venturer Scout leader with a fairly active unit so regularly have a lot of dirty teenagers in the car after bushwalking canyoning & xc ski trips. So far I haven't had any leakage into the carpet during this time.



I have driven commercial vehicles in the past with vinyl floors and would say the moulded mat system is nearly as good in regards to staying in place & protecting the carpet underneath. There is a good clip system holding them in so they just don't move unless you pull them out. I can imagine they are a fair bit cheaper than getting a custom floor made up, and work a hell of a lot better than using old conveyor belting or similar material. Definitely worth thinking about.



Cheers,

Stephen

Thanks stephen I’ll definitely have a look in to them.
Can i ask how long have you had them in for?



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[twitchie88]

The new BF Goodrich KO2 all terrain tyres are really good in my opinion, and a worthwhile option when looking at tyres. 275 65 16 are a good all round size without going bigger and risking scrubbing on the guards.

Definitely agree with you 100% my rents have them on their PK ranger? They live in alexandra (roughly 2 hours out of Melbourne) on 20 acers, mid winter it gets real sloshy on parts of their property and was extremely supprised how well they handled and gripped


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[Scouter1]

Thanks stephen I’ll definitely have a look in to them.
Can i ask how long have you had them in for?

Coming up to three years - daily driver and I work in an office so not too much punishment during the week. I do lots of weekend trips though as previously mentioned, that is where they really get hammered. Still no wear visable anywhere, especially in the driver's footwell.

[twitchie88]

So been out shopping around for prices for some goodies and been seeking advice

So i need some advice on my opinions from you knowledgeable people.

So above i explained my plans
Well after some thinking and talking to a few people its got my mind ticking at a million miles an hour.

My car is going to be used primarily for work
Carring my tools every day during the week days, there is alot of weight with them all.
Ie
Bag of drills x2 with x6 batterys 5-5Ah 1-9Ah
Bag of cordless power tools (circular saw, planner, fixer, jigsaw, recipo)
Cordless droppy
X2 largers tool boxes full of tools
X1 smaller tool boxes full of tools
X1 large screw box
3ft alloy ladder
Levels etc etc etc fair amount of weight.
So been thinking maybe a bullbar might not be a great idea for weight issues for fuel wise etc.

Anyway ive been thinking ALOT today about my uses for my car, i want to do some 4wheeling nothing major like i said but honestly will not be all the time.

So what would you guys do?
I want to have stiffer springs in the rear to accomodate for the weight being hauled around all week.
When i go away as a family will be towing a bike trailer with x4 bikes plus all our riding gear etc, but thats more when we go to my parents place which is often.
Would a 2” rated to 200-300kg be in place? Or can i get some standard hight springs at 200-300kg?

I was going to put 32s on it but really wouldnt be using them for that hight all the time so been thinking just getting some 265/75/r16 or 31s ATs.

Im just thinking of ways to save weight in return fuel.

Am i making a point for myself or am i just losing my marbles???

Please any input to help me make my mind sorted!


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[mrbitchi]

Another vote for Sandgrabbas. Had them in my NM for over 10 years. That set is now in my brothers old NP and still going strong. I also fitted a set in my Cruiser 3 yrs ago. Love em

[dreamerman]

I have custom vinyl type floor mats for my NX. Plenty on ebay.