NS or NT pajero

[Pauly]

Hi Guys,

I've decided it's time to upgrade from the old NJ to a newer model diesel. Looking at an NS or NT and just wondering if there are any major differences between the two. The same money will get an NS with low km's or an NT with mid km's so just wondering if there is an advantage to go for the NT. Also what point is the major service due on them, is it around 100,000kms?

Cheers,
Pauly

[Seigried]

If your after a diesel the manual NS has no dpf. Unsure if the same goes for the manual NT.

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[MELONHEAD]

Go for the NT every time. If buying an auto, the NS has DPF where NT does not (except early 2009 NT with passive DPF). If buying manual, the NS has a dual mass flywheel where the NT does not. This means a 2010 model or newer NT will have no DPF and no dual mass flywheel. As far as I am concerned these two reasons are more than enough to skip the NS and go for a 2010 + model NT. I just recently upgraded my NL to an NT and this is the criteria I used. The only NS I would consider would have the DPF delete done if an auto, and a solid flywheel conversion if a manual.

[Hatto]

I think the first major service is at 90k. Better transmission in the NT as well. It has the aisin as opposed to the Jatco in the NS. Slightly more power and torque in the NT onwards too. NS I think had about 128kw and 420Nm (or about that if I am wrong) whereas the NT onwards has 147kw and 450Nm I think. For these reasons as well as the dual mass flywheel, and NS DPF issues, I'd never chose a NS over a NT.

[Pauly]

Thanks guys, great info

[Pauly]

Go for the NT every time. If buying an auto, the NS has DPF where NT does not (except early 2009 NT with passive DPF). If buying manual, the NS has a dual mass flywheel where the NT does not. This means a 2010 model or newer NT will have no DPF and no dual mass flywheel. As far as I am concerned these two reasons are more than enough to skip the NS and go for a 2010 + model NT. I just recently upgraded my NL to an NT and this is the criteria I used. The only NS I would consider would have the DPF delete done if an auto, and a solid flywheel conversion if a manual.

Is there a way to tell if a 2009 NT has the passive DPF fitted? I've found a nice VRX but it's a 2009 NT so might be worth checking out. Also, how much trouble does the passive DPF cause compared to the NS's DPF?

[Seigried]

My NS has a smf fitted. Its about $1100 in parts plus labour to convert from dual to single mass. I think the key here is to ask any seller if they know and be aware of the cost if they lied.

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[nj swb]

My NT has the passive (or "open") Dpf, and it has zero issues. No sensors to worry about, or burn-offs to trigger. Apparently it's very much like a catalytic converter.

[MELONHEAD]

Is there a way to tell if a 2009 NT has the passive DPF fitted? I've found a nice VRX but it's a 2009 NT so might be worth checking out. Also, how much trouble does the passive DPF cause compared to the NS's DPF?

Check the owners handbook to see if it mentions anything about DPF. If not, no DPF fitted. Also check the exhaust system to see if there is a large heavily heat shielded cylindrical box in the area under the car below the passenger seat, or just a straight exhaust section.

As nj swb said, there are very few troubles with the passive DPF, but I think you may still need to use special low ash engine oil with the DPF. Can someone confirm this? Without DPF low ash oil is not required.

[Gkarssen1978]

I have ns and yes the dpf is deleted with egr block as well been great since then. The dpf was a problem for sure but I'm happy now with it.

[Trisome]

Go the NT for all the reasons above, my add on is I think they changed the auto between the 2 to a better one.

Trisome