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  • Wholesale Automatic Transmissions
    The transmission specialists
    • Dec 2011
    • 16

    Don't Get Caught Out

    DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT! 'This is what happens when you use a basic Relay Style Lock-Up Kit and not a Pulse Width Modulated system like the GEN 2 Kits. On most modern vehicles this solenoid is a bit of a tricky one because it applies with 13.5 volts (Battery voltage when engine is running) then over the following several seconds very slowly backs down to 7 volts on arrange and then starts to modulate. This is done for 2 reasons, 1st regulate clamping pressure and 2nd to keep the valve in a constant state of movement which stops the valve from becoming stuck. While the valve getting stuck is not so common it is done as a precaution. On some vehicles this is very important. This can also be done by producing “dither” a technical term used when voltage is deliberately made to dither or wobble slightly. Please note that wobble is by far not a technical term but rather a better explanation for lack of a better word lol. All vehicles have now gone to this system although voltages change from make to make and some have been doing this for more than 10 years, this includes the Nissan, Toyota and Mitsubishi. And yes we learnt the hard way and this is why we had to build the Gen 2 Lock-Up system that suits all models.
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  • stevemc181
    Valued Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 2940
    • Thornlie/Perth

    #2
    Where exactly would that burnt solenoid be located? Is it generally mounted in a housing on the side of the transmission?

    Is there any problem running your PWM kit for an extended length of time on the highway (Like an hour or two) I had issues with the GEN 2 Wholesale Auto's kit when fitted, due to the resistor overheating after 20 or 30 minutes of constant lock-up, it's been all good since the resistor was changed. So just wondering if the length of time the lock-up switch is engaged is something we need to pay attention to?

    There aren't too many spots we can leave it on for an hour two, but WA has some long stretches where it is possible.
    2012 NW Activ with all the fruit, stripped what I could for my new build and handed over to the Mrs as a daily driver.

    Current vehicle: 2016 Y61 GU Patrol Legend series Auto, (Last of the Breed)
    3505kg GVM Upgrade and 2" Lift | Warn XD 9000 Winch | Factory steel bar, towbar, snorkel, alloy roof rack | 285/70/17 (33") Mickey T ATZ P3's | 3" Manta Exhaust | ORS Drawer System | Manual Boost Controller | ECU Remap |

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    • Wholesale Automatic Transmissions
      The transmission specialists
      • Dec 2011
      • 16

      #3
      The PWM Lock-Up Kit can be run for as long as you want. The problem is only with the home made relay systems. The Gen 2 has been so fine tuned and can run the solenoid safely all day every day. These solenoids are found attached to the valve body inside the transmission pan. Rodney
      The valve body upgrade specialists.

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      • Dicko1
        Valued Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 7636
        • Cairns, FNQ

        #4
        Do you have dealer in Cairns that could supply and install the kit for a 2014 Pajero?

        cheers
        Dicko. FNQ

        2014 NW with all the usual stuff plus more.

        TIME....1000 times more valuable than money

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        • Georgie
          Valued Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 478
          • Secret Harbour WA

          #5
          Originally posted by Wholesale Automatic Transmissions View Post
          The PWM Lock-Up Kit can be run for as long as you want. The problem is only with the home made relay systems. The Gen 2 has been so fine tuned and can run the solenoid safely all day every day. These solenoids are found attached to the valve body inside the transmission pan. Rodney
          Hi Rodney
          I have sent you an email
          Cheers
          George
          2015 Sahara
          Black Mica in colour
          BFG A/T 275x70x18s Black Widow drawers Redark dual battery system GME CB radio Redarc Tow Prow Elite

          Wish List lots

          SOLD 2013 GLX- R Pajero

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          • sharkcaver
            "2000"+ Valued Contributor
            • May 2009
            • 6270
            • Perth

            #6
            Group buy Georgie. The lockup kit is on my horizon too. If we could get a few perthites interested, maybe Rodney can look after us???? Rodney?
            MY16 NX GLX5 with just a few bits added. MY14 D-max spacecab, also with a few bits added.

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            • Poita
              Valued Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 1070
              • Adelaide

              #7
              I used the kit extensively on our Adelaide to Perth trip towing a camper. A little unclear on when I SHOULDN'T be using it (it dropped out of gear on some of the bigger hills when cruise control was on).
              Kept the transmission temps around 60-70 instead of nearly 120!

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              NW VRX MY2013
              Jonny Tig FMIC, 3" Exhaust, RalliArt remap, Provent, FuelManager, CouplerTec rust protection, ARB bar, Runva winch, TJM Snorkel, Bilstein/Lovell/Airbags, full Bushskins kit, Asfir AC+fuel, Fyrlyt Nemesis 9000 spotties + LED headlights, Uniden UHF, RedArc TowPro Elite, BRC breathers, Honda sprayers, Automate lockup/paddles, Rhino platform/backbone

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              • Wholesale Automatic Transmissions
                The transmission specialists
                • Dec 2011
                • 16

                #8
                Dicko1 Yes we do have a dealer in Cairns that can supply and fit. Email me at [email protected] and i will set you up.
                The valve body upgrade specialists.

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                • KiwiNTPajero
                  Valued Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 1012
                  • Wellington,New Zealand

                  #9
                  i have heard somewhere that this kit isnt suitable or doesnt really lock up the trans for really good engine braking on steep downhills.ie first gear in low range.
                  2009 NT GLS(NZ) diesel LWB auto
                  BFG AT,Rhino Rack Vortex Bars,Foxwing Eco Awning,BUSHSKINZ I/C, sump guards and steps


                  "do not check the button for faster communication, this will throw a wobbly with some dongles"

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                  • Wholesale Automatic Transmissions
                    The transmission specialists
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 16

                    #10
                    Guys i know how hard it can be to do a group buy and sometime it works and sometimes it doesn't so I am going to keep a promise to a good friend of mine that plays a large part in running this site and give anyone that is interested trade price both fitted and unfitted for any of our products including the lock-up kits. We have 38 fitters all over Australia so I hoping for those who want our kits fitted will be close enough. E:mail me at [email protected] and mention this thread and I will price you up as a Trade customer.
                    The valve body upgrade specialists.

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                    • Pickle
                      Administrator
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 6886
                      • All over Oz

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Wholesale Automatic Transmissions View Post
                      Guys i know how hard it can be to do a group buy and sometime it works and sometimes it doesn't so I am going to keep a promise to a good friend of mine that plays a large part in running this site and give anyone that is interested trade price both fitted and unfitted for any of our products including the lock-up kits. We have 38 fitters all over Australia so I hoping for those who want our kits fitted will be close enough. E:mail me at [email protected] and mention this thread and I will price you up as a Trade customer.
                      Well done Rocket
                      Dave
                      NX Pampas Cat GLS MY16
                      Member 1228 Pajero Club

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                      • Gerryandanne
                        Member
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 56
                        • Perth

                        #12
                        I'm interested in a trade deal....sent you an email. ([email protected])
                        MMC HD Towbar. Smart bar.Airtec Snorkel.Bushskinz. Roleys Rear Bash plate. Bilsteins and Lovells HD 2" lift kit. Firestone Airbags.Cargo Barrier.Remote head UHF.Provent Catch can. SPV module. Clearview towing mirrors.Tow Pro Elite.Custom window tints.Headlight and bonnet protectors.

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                        • Strings
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 38
                          • Mt Evelyn

                          #13
                          Had my lock up fitted for approx nine months now and use it constantly while towing my camper, apart from better fuel economy the auto stays a lot cooler particularly up long hills and in sand, never had any issues. Also had a full flush and fill using synthetic oil.

                          Happy with mine.

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                          • Scouter1
                            Valued Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 899
                            • Sydney NSW

                            #14
                            Originally posted by KiwiNTPajero View Post
                            i have heard somewhere that this kit isnt suitable or doesnt really lock up the trans for really good engine braking on steep downhills.ie first gear in low range.
                            That is what I was told when I had the valve body fitted - lock up kit works in higher gears but not for lower ratios without valve body upgrade.

                            Cheers,
                            Stephen
                            2011 Silver NT GLS DiD Auto with extra bits - build thread http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/...ad.php?t=36099

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                            • Wholesale Automatic Transmissions
                              The transmission specialists
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 16

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Scouter1 View Post
                              That is what I was told when I had the valve body fitted - lock up kit works in higher gears but not for lower ratios without valve body upgrade.

                              Cheers,
                              Stephen
                              Yes this is true the Lock-Up wont work in 1st gear for the NT onwards models unless you have the Heavy Duty Nomad Valve Body fitted. The valve body allows lock-up in 1st gear not to mention it has its own advantages.
                              The valve body upgrade specialists.

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