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Smile Hi, I'm new and in a quandary

Greetings all, i hope this day find you well and not suffering from too much celebrating the end of 2016 I have joined up as I need all the help I can get. While I have never owned a Paj to this point in life I am looking to change that in the pretty near future.

After looking around for the last couple of months and reading all I can find on here the last few days, there are 2 vehicles I am currently considering. Both are diesel.

Firstly a 2008 NS, auto with 230k km, from what I have seen and having talked to the previous owner, seems a fairly well looks after vehicle with most of the accessories I would need, for a start at least.This one had injector pump replaced/refurbished in last couple of yrs and seemed to have a quite detailed service history available. Listed price $18880

Secondly a 2004 NP model, manual with only 172k km, I spent quite a bit of time yesterday checking as much as I could and went for a drive for about half hr. Seems about how I would expect a vehicle of this age and km to behave, drove quite well. My biggest concern with this vehicle is the service books were pretty vague as to what had been done, I couldn't see any evidence of a timing chain being done however as mentioned it sounded and drove quite well. Listed price for this one, $14990.

So my dilemma is this presuming both vehicles check out all good. Should I buy older with less accessories but cheaper with considerably less km?? My personal preference is leaning toward a manual anyway. Any opinions on which is likely to give the most trouble free motoring are most welcome.

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Firstly a 2008 NS, auto with 230k km, from what I have seen and having talked to the previous owner, seems a fairly well looks after vehicle with most of the accessories I would need, for a start at least.Thisone has injector pump replaced/refurbished in last couple of yrs


Never heard of the common rail pump being replaced or refurbished. There are NS and NT on here with well over 230,000Ks and running the original pump.

Being an auto the NS will have a DPF but that is easy to overcome. Also if the manifold hasn't been cleaned it would certainly need to be done.

Make sure the timing chain tensioner and drivers airbag recalls have been done.

With the NP replace the timing chain guide.
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There are many threads on this on the forum,but in short
Np has the
super expensive fuel pump
Ns auto's have the super expensive dpf problem

Both will make you happy if your set on a paj.

What spec level is the NS? 18 K would be quite steep in price unless its an exceed

Also if you or the owner call a dealership with the vin number they can tell you which recalls have been done inc the timing chain.

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On the airbag recall im still waiting on the second letter to advise its my turn for both of mine 🖓

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Both vehicles are glx

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On the airbag recall im still waiting on the second letter to advise its my turn for both of mine 🖓

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We received a call from the dealer a few days before Christmas saying the bag had arrived. Will book in this week or the next.
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Being an auto the NS will have a DPF but that is easy to overcome. Also if the manifold hasn't been cleaned it would certainly need to be done.

Thanks BruceandBobbi


What is the best option to overcome potential dpf problems?

Cheers.
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What is the best option to overcome potential dpf problems?


Some remove it and replace it with a pipe and their are others that have never had a problem with it.

https://chiptuning.com.au/products-p...f-delete-pipe/
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Wow, that's actually a hard choice.
I think they're both overpriced btw.

The NP was a very good car except for the injection pump. Good build quality. A preventative service by replacing an internal bearing is $1500, but if you wait until it fails it's $4-5k for a replacement.

For an NS, As mentioned above, if the EGR hasn't been blocked it will need the intake cleaned,which is around $600. Plus the DPF delete cost if it's needed.

Both models have the same auto transmissions although the NP is a manual above.

Probably the mechanical condition and aesthetics of each car would sway my decision.


Having just looked at each, I'd go the NS, as it has more accessories and is better setup for 4wd'n
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Hi PSimsy
I was in the same boat a few months ago when I was shopping for my first Pajero. After reading about the NS DPF problems I looked at NT's and test drove a couple. I then read about the rust issues in some NS-NT's.
The best Pajero poll put the NP first and then the NT.
Pumps seem to go around the 250-300k mark.
I ended up buying an NP with 140km's on it. (All low km NP diesels were around 16-20k in price).
If it were me I'd be looking for an NP or NT (or NS manual) in good condition & low km's. It can take awhile to find a good one.
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