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  • Little Devil
    Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 76
    • Valley View, South Australia

    NT Diesel Radiators

    Have recently reconditioned my 3.2 Diesel, replaced radiator, replaced thermostat, fitted new Fan Clutch, flushed hoses and replaced the dodgy hoses as required.
    Tow a caravan with a tow weight of about 1700kg, as soon as it sees a hill the water temp rises very quickly and hovers between 103 and 115 degrees Celcius.
    I feel this is much to high.
    Has anyone fitted and alternative radiator such as a aluminium core/bodied unit with any success?
    Than you in advance for any thoughts you may have.
    Last edited by Little Devil; 08-10-18, 08:21 PM.
    My19 ZL Outlander Diesel Auto. Ultra Gauge MX, Uniden CB, 270 Batwing Awning, Catch Can

    WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people.
  • erad
    Valued Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 5067
    • Cooma NSW

    #2
    The first thing t o check is the viscous coupling. There are pretty of threads on this subject. Bin

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    • Little Devil
      Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 76
      • Valley View, South Australia

      #3
      Fan Clutch

      Sorry all, forgot to mention that is new also.
      My19 ZL Outlander Diesel Auto. Ultra Gauge MX, Uniden CB, 270 Batwing Awning, Catch Can

      WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people.

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      • nj swb
        Resident
        • Jun 2007
        • 7333
        • Adelaide

        #4
        Originally posted by Little Devil View Post
        Tow a caravan with a tow weight of about 1700kg, as soon as it sees a hill the water temp rises very quickly and hovers between 103 and 115 degrees Celcius.
        I feel this is much to high.
        When you're towing, do you use sport mode and manually select gears, or let the transmission sort it all for you? Do you monitor your transmission temps?

        Elevated coolant temps are inevitable under load, but I agree that the numbers you're reporting seem a little high. Your auto transmission cooling system runs fluid through the bottom radiator tank - if your transmission is working really hard, your radiator may not be able to cope with the additional heat from the torque converter.

        If your problem is caused by transmission temps, there are a few options available to help control these. If transmission isn't the problem, then you need to look at different solutions.
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        • Peterng
          Valued Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 784
          • Northern Rivers NSW

          #5
          I find that copper core radiators are a better proposition when travelling on the road, in general they can be repaired quicker, cheaper and practically by mechanics than an aluminium core radiator which is a bit more specialised.
          A couple of mates in my 4wd club went with a aluminium core radiator and have not a real problem with them, but one noted that it runs a fraction hotter.
          In regards to your vehicles engine running hot, have you done a through engine oil flush for this could help. The oil in your motor is also a coolant as well as a lubricant and when the oil galley ways get a bit clogged this can effect the flow of oil through the engine components and an engine can run hotter.

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          • grpcbr
            Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 90
            • Adelaide

            #6
            Water pump?

            Evening. When you say “reconditioned”, was that engine internals etc? Also, the NT is starting to age a little and maybe it’s a sign of the water pump not performing??

            Cheers

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            • Little Devil
              Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 76
              • Valley View, South Australia

              #7
              Sport Mode

              Yes I drive as a manual, change up at around 3000 and cruise in 4th around 80 - 90 kph.
              Sometimes depending on road / weather conditions I have to sit on at least 85kph in 4th to stop the torque convertor jumping between lock and unlock modes.
              Transmission has recently been flushed and serviced.
              My19 ZL Outlander Diesel Auto. Ultra Gauge MX, Uniden CB, 270 Batwing Awning, Catch Can

              WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people.

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              • Little Devil
                Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 76
                • Valley View, South Australia

                #8
                ?? Water Pump??

                Pump was checked when engine done. Was rebored one size up and engine was hot dipped, oil and water galleries double checked.
                My19 ZL Outlander Diesel Auto. Ultra Gauge MX, Uniden CB, 270 Batwing Awning, Catch Can

                WARNING: Towballs used for recoveries can, and do kill people.

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                • Christo72
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 32
                  • Deloraine, tas.

                  #9
                  Maybe check the thermostat, I’ve found over the years just because something is new doesn’t always mean it works properly !

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                  • erad
                    Valued Member
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 5067
                    • Cooma NSW

                    #10
                    Ditto with the fan coupling. New doesn't necessarily mean that it works. Carefully apply a stick against the fan blades and see if you can easily stop the fan when it is hot. If you can, the coupling is not good.

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                    • Allan2
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 389
                      • Mid Nort Coast, NSW

                      #11
                      Have you got a 'thermal infrared temperature guns' a scan gauge or 'Torgue' on your phone? is the engine reaching the temperature the dash gauge is telling you? Does it smell hot? Check the engine temperature with the thermal gun against the gauge. You could have a resister 10 problem in the dash giving incorrect readings.
                      Some more ideas, could it be a defective fan clutch there have been reports of new ones not having enough fluid in them, faulty thermostat (unlikely) but worth a check place it in hot water to see if it open correctly at the right temperature. With the engine running being carefully squeeze the lower radiator hose almost closed rev the engine if the hose sucks shut the radiator has insufficient flow through it. When did it start getting hot?
                      Allan
                      2009 NT, 3.2 Auto, D/Lights & Light Bar, EGR mod, Sump and Inter Cooler Guards, Tow Bar, Bog Standard.

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