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  • onilebas
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 115
    • Melbourne SE

    Steering Vibration when braking at the speed 80kmph or more

    Hello Guys I get to have a vibration on my steering when stepping on the brake at the speed of 80 kmph or more. I tried to rotate the wheel tires (diagonal) the vibration getting worsed. Is it the wheel problem (alignment) or brake disk rotor ?
  • Aussie_Dan
    Valued Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4088
    • Cairns

    #2
    Likely to be warped rotors. Can you feel any pulsing through the brake pedal when you are on the brakes and can feel this vibration?
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    • onilebas
      Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 115
      • Melbourne SE

      #3
      yes i can feel it on the pedal. what you mean by warped rotor?need to reface it?

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      • Lance
        Valued Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1605
        • Melbourne

        #4
        If they're warped badly enough to feel through the pedal I'd be looking towards replacement.

        Can't see much of an option there.
        2005 NP Platinum Edition, DiD Auto
        2009 VW Crafter motorhome

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        • onilebas
          Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 115
          • Melbourne SE

          #5
          how come when i rotate the tires its getting worse? how much does it cost for a single rotor? or refacing the rotor
          Last edited by onilebas; 26-11-11, 11:34 AM.

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          • Lance
            Valued Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 1605
            • Melbourne

            #6
            Machining the discs was about $25 last time I had it done but that was a while ago.
            Worse after the rotation ?
            If you hadn't rotated, I might have thought bad tyres, but that could probably be ruled out after you've put different tyres on that axle for the same or worse result.

            More experienced thoughts needed here.
            2005 NP Platinum Edition, DiD Auto
            2009 VW Crafter motorhome

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            • my.paj
              Moderator
              • Dec 2010
              • 3830
              • Tullamarine

              #7
              Wheel alignment can make it worse and more so when a tie rod or pitmam arm ect are worn, the tyres you had on the front are suited to the way the front end has worn by changing the tyres it will respond different, and your disks need to be sorted to.
              Rick
              Old, NP Exceed 3.5 petrol, ARB Bull bar, Warn winch, Bush Skinz Bash plates ,2inch lift, Safari Snorkel. ***Now Sold***
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              • TRyan4
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 182
                • Dubbo, Central West NSW

                #8
                I paid $70ea for new fronts, because mine had deep grooves, or it will cost $40 a pair to reface[machine]. I would get them machined and if your pads are OK then clean them up on a belt sander and it will be as good as new! The guy doing the machining will tell you if they are still in spec.

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                • sharkcaver
                  "2000"+ Valued Contributor
                  • May 2009
                  • 6270
                  • Perth

                  #9
                  If you rotated tyres and it got worse, then its a fair bet you either have more than 1 problem or its not related to the discs/suspension/steering. I would suspect the latter (rotors) is not the issue. If you can borrow some fresh rubber for a drive around the block, you can then discount the tyres. You can put a dial gauge on the discs and check yourself (if you have one or know where to borrow one from). Failing that, get a brake place to check, but that will cost you. That is 2 relatively easy diagnostic solutions out the way. If it was a suspension/steering component issue, its most likely this would occur when not under braking as well. But first off, check your rubber. You also don't state when and how long this symptom has occurred.

                  Shane
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                  • onilebas
                    Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 115
                    • Melbourne SE

                    #10
                    i retest driving and its definitely the same vibration and not getting worse.. i checked the brake disk on the front driver side rotor is slightly damage compared to the 3 rotor disk. is it advisable only to change 1 rotor disk ?

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                    • my.paj
                      Moderator
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 3830
                      • Tullamarine

                      #11
                      You can change 1 disk but I would not, rather do both.
                      Rick
                      Old, NP Exceed 3.5 petrol, ARB Bull bar, Warn winch, Bush Skinz Bash plates ,2inch lift, Safari Snorkel. ***Now Sold***
                      New, RG Colorado Dual Cab Tray

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                      • onilebas
                        Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 115
                        • Melbourne SE

                        #12
                        tnx guyz.any advise where i could buy cheap rotor disk?

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                        • adrian
                          Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 158
                          • Australia

                          #13
                          Pm sent

                          Adrian
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                          • TRyan4
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 182
                            • Dubbo, Central West NSW

                            #14
                            Onilebus, I recently fixed my daughters Toyota Avalon[sedan] with the same symptoms as you,and as I said before took the rotors off, took them down and had them machined, I cleaned up the pads on a belt sander put it back together, about two hours all up, and they were as good as new!
                            You don't sound like you are going to do them yourself, so unless you have a neighbourhood "mechanic", then you will have to go to a brake specialist.He should be happy to machine them if they are still in spec and if your pads are more than half, ask him to clean them up and reuse them, the whole job should not cost $200

                            Rotors don't warp because they are too old, it can happen the next day after fitting new rotors, and it is probably related to driving style ie heavy braking or riding the brakes while going through the mountains.
                            Don't try to over analyse it, just get them done, I am sure that it is your problem!

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                            • sharkcaver
                              "2000"+ Valued Contributor
                              • May 2009
                              • 6270
                              • Perth

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TRyan4 View Post
                              Don't try to over analyse it, just get them done, I am sure that it is your problem!
                              Why would it get worse with a tyre rotation then if it was a warped disc????
                              MY16 NX GLX5 with just a few bits added. MY14 D-max spacecab, also with a few bits added.

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