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  • joshua.alexander
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 125
    • regional nsw

    4M40 Problem Solved, i think

    Hi folks, just heads up, my car is repaired, i think,i thought i cracked my head, did exhaust gas test, cylinder and rad compression test every cylinder was reading 200psi at crank speed, only good results; before i took my car to the shop it was over heating every 150kms, there was bubbles in rad and overflow was full, i got rad rebuilt, new water pump , new cap and thermo, cost $750, i dont see bubbles anymore so i hope it has fixed the problem, thanks to all who have helped from my last thread
  • Thomas101
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 143
    • S.E. Melbourne

    #2
    Gday,

    Sorry to bring it up, but you're sure the 200psi is correct. Mine returned 400psi. Anyone got any thoughts?

    Thomas
    '94 2.8TD NJ, 2" RidePro, 285/75 R16 MTRs, 220mm Roo Lites, REDARC Dual Batteries, 12,000lbs Tigerz11 with Rope, GME TX3340 with 4.5db Antenna, 12" of Cadence Bass

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    • joshua.alexander
      Member
      • May 2009
      • 125
      • regional nsw

      #3
      i dont no, i think i got a bit to cockey, it will over heat again i know it, the coolant is going to the overflow and not returning, but there are no bubbles in the radiator, i left my overflow bottle to full (halfway), after driving it, i noticed that the hole bottle was full! when the car was turned off, any thoughts on that?

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      • Mitsi Lover
        Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 197

        #4
        Originally posted by joshua.alexander View Post
        i dont no, i think i got a bit to cockey, it will over heat again i know it, the coolant is going to the overflow and not returning, but there are no bubbles in the radiator, i left my overflow bottle to full (halfway), after driving it, i noticed that the hole bottle was full! when the car was turned off, any thoughts on that?
        The cooant expands into the expansion tank when hot and the radiator draws it back as it cools.

        200 psi is too low for a diesel engine.

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        • MTN-KAT
          Valued Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 1190
          • Gold Coast

          #5
          Hi joshua, I suspect you have a cracked head or blown head gasket. The compression is finding it's way into cooling system and vents itself out overflow. Even a small crack will behave this way. Your original thread indicates an overheating issue. Probably caused by a leaking water pump. If you refill hot system with cool water this is often the result. Happened to my sister in laws Isuzu. Even waiting a few hours to refill was too soon. Should have let it get cold overnight. I've heard of a thing called engine lock? I think that's the term. Happens if water gets in a cylinder which can't be compressed, particularly in a high compression motor like the diesel. Can do severe engine damage. Wish I didn't see it this way and hope I am proven wrong for your sake but it has to be considered. Cheers.
          99 NL Escape 3.5L V6 LWB Wagon, "Aisin Auto", MM Alum Protector Bar, MM factory 'steel' underbody protector plates, Engine oil cooler, Transmission oil cooler, Side rails, Flares, MM Alloy wheels, HANKOOK Dynapro ATM LT tyres, Aftermarket Alarm, MM A.I.S. HPR15 Penrite engine oil. Penrite LS140 diff oil with 250ml LIMSLIP additive 7098.

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          • joshua.alexander
            Member
            • May 2009
            • 125
            • regional nsw

            #6
            Hi, i really dont understand, maybe the compression is low, but it has a shitload of power, i dont understand how its the head, or head gasket, i have had a cyclinder compression check, radiator compression check and exhaust gas test, i got a brand new head fitted 16 months ago.
            ''The cooant expands into the expansion tank when hot and the radiator draws it back as it cools.'', how much coolant expands tho and i let the car cool and nothing, i suspect the car will overheat whenall the coolant expands into the overflow bottle and overflows out of it.
            the diesel mechanic said it was 200psi at idle

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            • MTN-KAT
              Valued Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 1190
              • Gold Coast

              #7
              Maybe not head or gasket. I was just saying how similar it sounded to my sister in laws case. All tests are hopeful. Have you checked radiator full when cold in morning? Seems excessive to find overflow bottle fills up when hot and equally odd to find it empty when cold. Would not expect that much fluid from expansion. No doubt you will be monitoring its behaviour on a daily basis till you know whats going on. Cheers
              99 NL Escape 3.5L V6 LWB Wagon, "Aisin Auto", MM Alum Protector Bar, MM factory 'steel' underbody protector plates, Engine oil cooler, Transmission oil cooler, Side rails, Flares, MM Alloy wheels, HANKOOK Dynapro ATM LT tyres, Aftermarket Alarm, MM A.I.S. HPR15 Penrite engine oil. Penrite LS140 diff oil with 250ml LIMSLIP additive 7098.

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              • joshua.alexander
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 125
                • regional nsw

                #8
                Well i will be monitoring the rad i will check in morning, i appreciate your thoughts and comments but i just cant see it as a head or gasket, tthere are no symptoms lol, but thanks anywY

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                • Matatak
                  Valued Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 936
                  • Perth

                  #9
                  How old is the Radiator Cap? if thats buggered it wont return the water back into the system whent he car cools down.

                  Who did the compression check? 200Psi is way to low for a diesel.
                  05 NP DiD Auto. 265/75R16, OME Suspension, ARB Dlx B/Bar, Warn Zeon 10-S, IPF HID's, Rear Drawer Setup, Pioneer Platform Rack, ARB 78l Fridge, GME TX3520SW UHF.

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                  • Mitsi Lover
                    Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 197

                    #10
                    Just checked my Haynes manual.

                    Compression Pressure
                    2.8 L
                    Standard 2,640 kPa
                    Minimium 2,250 kPa
                    Max Variation 290 kPa

                    Divide these figures by 6.895 to get a conversion to psi.

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                    • joshua.alexander
                      Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 125
                      • regional nsw

                      #11
                      Yeh i am with ya there, either the mech didnt do it right or i am looking at getting new rings, but the water returned to the rad this morning so thats a positive, but if i need new rings atleast a get a new head gasket out of it haha

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                      • REDNUT
                        Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 165

                        #12
                        its it overflowing the overflow bottle, maybe try to poke the overflow hose off that bottle straight out your grill, then if it does happen to dump out the overflow bottle you will know really fast,

                        mine fills the bottle after a drive, then takes a while to suck back down to the max line

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                        • joshua.alexander
                          Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 125
                          • regional nsw

                          #13
                          So what do you mean , "try to poke the overflow hose off that bottle straight out your grill" sorry , dont understand

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                          • REDNUT
                            Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 165

                            #14
                            well there are 2 hoses that go to your overflow bottle, one from the radiator, another that enters the overflow bottle beside the one from the radiator, vents straight down in front of the bottle, take that hose that points down and move it so if it does dump its water ( or steam ) u will see it, might just need to give the front a good was, maybe a polish if it does dump everything

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                            • joshua.alexander
                              Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 125
                              • regional nsw

                              #15
                              ok, thanks for your help, but it wont help whilst i am driving, at the moment the coolant has seem to be staying in between the lines but i ddont see any coolant in the radiator

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