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Do you have more details of the “backbone” systems failing?

In theory if they are designed and installed correctly the should be much stronger than the factory fitted system.

Is it a problem that those with these systems are overloading and traveling off the bitumen?

OJ.
OJ this is only a theory ,but, i believe that the original resin "roof rails" soak up a fair bit of lateral movement before it reaches the mounting points. The Backbone mounts directly to the brackets on the roof therefore all of the lateral movement goes straight through the mounts. Like I said, and I am no engineer, this is only a theory.
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OJ this is only a theory ,but, i believe that the original resin "roof fails" soak up a fair bit of lateral movement before it reaches the mounting points. The Backbone mounts directly to the brackets on the roof therefore all of the lateral movement goes straight through the mounts. Like I said, and I am no engineer, this is only a theory.
So is it the actual backbone mount failing or the roof structure where it attaches?

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The actual roof mounts. On all of the instances I've read about the roof rack manufacturer has repaired any damage.
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The actual roof mounts. On all of the instances I've read about the roof rack manufacturer has repaired any damage.
Hi Ron,

Can you please post the links, hopefully there will be some photos that may give an idea of the cause of the problem.

It is quite common for aftermarket accessories to cause failures of vehicle structures because the accessories are over engineered and do not work in harmony with the factory structures. Winch bars, dual battery trays, towbars, roof racks, long range fuel tanks and even suspension systems have all been known to cause failures of vehicle structures.

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Just to update progress on the PS Tinny on the roof question, I’ve progressed to buying a new 3.1 Tinny that weighs in at 63 kg. An added benefit of the smaller 3.1 m is that a 26 kg, 10 hp outboard is all that’s required which is easily handled.

I’m using standard Rhino PS roof bars, but I’ve replaced the usual bars with wider 1375 mm long bars to provide better tie down side clearance for the tinny, these fit and look fine. Then I’ll be fitting the Rhino tie down eyes to the bars which solidly locate within the bar’s upper track. The other modification planned is addition of a third bar to provide better fore and aft stability as the standard racks seem to be placed very close together, a part of the trial will be to determine the best place for it. I’m assuming that I can drill the roof bar to allow the bracket clamps to properly engage.

We’re heading to S.A at the moment, I would have loved to just throw it all together and go but I want to thoroughly trial the system before heading out. But if it works out I’ll be well under the 80kg limit with the smaller 3.1 m tinny and at that weight two people should be easily able to manually load it on.
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63kg is an easy lift for one or two people. Making a side loader would be easy. Probably get away with a small hand winch that can be disconnected to save roof rack weight. Mine at 90kg is another issue! However even my 3.7 , deep sided outback explorer I am a tad nervous in top end rivers. Had a 5 meter water gecko launch off the bank about 50 meters in front of us and it put the wind up us. Chap at the camping ground (the owner) said that a bloke was killed about 4 years ago where we launch. Apparently he was putting a crab pot in and the lizard grabbed him. They found his camera and some body parts. The 5 meter lizard was shot. However, as is usual, another large one came along and took up residence. Lucky you don't have these issues down south!
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Oh I had to laugh, initially thinking geckos grew really big up there until I realised you were talking about the long tailed, short legged, long nose terriers. No, definitely not thinking of doing too much in those waters.
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When you get it sorted post up a few photos and details. May help others who are considering the same thing..


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63kg is an easy lift for one or two people!
There is not too many regular people that can easily lift 32kgs above their heads and move it sideways on and off a roof rack, so a boat loader really is required for safe handling.

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Hi Ron,

Can you please post the links, hopefully there will be some photos that may give an idea of the cause of the problem.

It is quite common for aftermarket accessories to cause failures of vehicle structures because the accessories are over engineered and do not work in harmony with the factory structures. Winch bars, dual battery trays, towbars, roof racks, long range fuel tanks and even suspension systems have all been known to cause failures of vehicle structures.

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OJ here is a link to one of the failures. https://m.facebook.com/groups/168468...70336406561589
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