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My recently purchased NM never came with a factory jack or handle (or toolkit), and I can't seem to find any. I would be interested to see what other alternatives people have adopted as I feel uncomfortable driving around with out a jack.
I got my Pajero about 6 months ago and it didn't come with a jack but it did have a full tool kit and the handle for the jack. I keep a bottle jack in the car its fine for the front wheels but if I get a flat on the rear axle I'm screwed. The jacking point for the rear tyres is the axle and the jack I have doesn't have a groove in it (like the standard Mitsubishi jack).

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I work for a mining company and all our vehicles have trolley jacks, don't buy a cheap one and they will get to the right height (unless your a haulpak) It still amazes me though, you spend shit loads of coin on a new vehicle/4wd and what do you get...crap tools and a crap jack
Is that a recent switch over from hilifts?
I used to work out bush for a mining contractor and we ALWAYS used roo jacks, and the same company still uses them (I checked yesterday). Wondering if the actual mine sites, or specific companies, have switched away from them due to HSE issues, or if your company simply has always used trolleys for different reasons.
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A couple of months ago I had the opposite problem in that I couldn't get the genuine Mits bottle jack under the rear jacking point (SWB NS), as the jack was too high when the tyre was completely deflated. Luckily I was on a good firm dirt patch so I got the shovel out and made enough room under it to get the jack in place. I didn't really have a problem getting the jack up high enough to get the old tyre off or the new one on, although I am looking for something better to work the jack than the supplied tyre lever. Come to think of it, I'm looking for a better way of undoing the wheel nuts as it took quite a bit of effort (i.e. Me jumping on the lever a few times) with the supplied tyre lever.

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Hi Jeff. If you are looking for a better way of undoing the wheel nuts then try one of those 12 volt rattle guns that you can get from places such as Repco. I have had one for about 5 years now and use it everytime I need to remove a wheel. Main reason I originally bought it was that the missus would easily be able to undo the wheel nuts if something happened to me and I could not do it - might not be an issue in urban areas but could be life or death stuff in the middle of the Simson. Also in hot weather virtually no manual exertion required - hey I can't help it, I have been a rescue officer for 29 years and have learnt to expect the unexpected and any situation you may imagine is not within the realms of possability, isn't that the reason we buy winches and all that other recovery gear that most of us will rarely ever use? but bet you we have all had to change a tyre or two.
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I work for a mining company and all our vehicles have trolley jacks, don't buy a cheap one and they will get to the right height (unless your a haulpak) It still amazes me though, you spend shit loads of coin on a new vehicle/4wd and what do you get...crap tools and a crap jack
When I bought my NP I had an independant vehicle inspection and the guy told me straight up to throw the bottle jack away and buy a Super Cheap 1.4tonne trolley jack - raises to 343mm. Around $40 if I recall. He uses them and does vehicle inspections all day all over Brisbane. I've tried it out twice at home and it works fine.

Fortunately I don't need the rear seat and the storage well is a great tool box for jack and some hardwood blocks (stair tread offcuts) and a cross brace that fits both the Pajero and the caravan.

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Default Jacking up the rear wheels....

Mmmm, just read this and I've only ever had to jack up the front wheel and didn't have a problem.

Might have to go out and try one of the back wheels to see if I can get it off the ground with the bottle jack that came with the car (NM Paj.). Didn't realise there was an issue...
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The funny thing is, some days it will get the rear wheels off the ground, others it wont, and its always at full height, hmm maybe i will get a trolley jack as well.

When the bottle jack is at full height, it looks rather un-trustworthy

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Well, I just ordered the Hi-Lift accessory that hooks into the wheel to lift it. I plan on using the bottle jack to hold it up once it's off the ground.
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Is that a recent switch over from hilifts?
I used to work out bush for a mining contractor and we ALWAYS used roo jacks, and the same company still uses them (I checked yesterday). Wondering if the actual mine sites, or specific companies, have switched away from them due to HSE issues, or if your company simply has always used trolleys for different reasons.
Exploration mining might be different but you won't get anywhere near a RIO or BHP site with a Hi lift jack...having said that each to their own
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Hi

First trip out and flat tyre with the Challenger. Lucky it was a slow leak so could drive to flat land which on the West Coast of Tassie was some distance. Despite been a car park the supplied bottle jack did not inspire confidence. Given that I has traversed the Montezuma Falls track the day before I would not have trusted the standard jack there, though better than my Falcon one which the vehicle rolled off as the jack bent like a sardine can. Lot to be said for putting the spare under the car while removing a wheel.

I was toying with an exhaust jack but my reading indicates that I am asking for even more trouble. As having no exterior jack points a high lift jack does not appear to be an option.

What does one do when a flat happens and the track will not allow a vehicle with a flat tyre to move to a better spot due to say ground clearance?

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Default Exhaust Jack concerns.

Hi Everyone,
I have a Ridge Ryder exhaust jack, gave it a test the other day and found it very hard to stay connected to the exhaust ( 6g74, nm standard exhaust tailpipe ), to the point I thought I'd save it for another day. ( any worries about engine seals?) I see nobody has posted on this thread regarding the exhaust jack option. Opinions and advice please, re the original thread.
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