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Old 23-12-15
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that's looks good, has anyone used this sort of winch ? or why they are not in market these days?

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they are still available. they are called the bush winch.

http://www.bushwinch.com.au/shop-products-2/

not sure what they are like. I would also be interested to hear from someone who has used one in the real world.
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I've just found some info on this
http://www.bushwinch.com.au/

someone says it's US $420 whole kit plus shipping costs, not worth to get one, add $400 more and get electric winch installed.
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yeah, me too, what to hear if it works and compatible with the alloy wheels and the rest of stuff anyone can add to it.
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I don't like the concept particularly for a solid axle, It would have to put a massive amount of lateral strain on the axle and suspension particularly if only one winch drum is used. Under that scenario the wheel with the drum would want to pull forward (assuming winching from in front of the vehicle) whilst the wheel on the other end of the axle would tend to want to move towards the rear of the vehicle. Obviously if both wheels had drums attached then in that case both wheels would want to head towards the anchor point. Reckon the suspension and relative anchoring points of the drive line are designed to bear the strain of the vehicle and trailer moving and stopping. Clearly a skull drag weight would easily exceed that ie normal winch 10000 pound (about 4500kg) reckon and serious bog would have the axle looking the axles of a matchbox car that's been stood but with nasty toe in rather that a crazy camber.

Think I'll stick with a winch anchored to something engineered to carry the strain not one anchored to the wheels
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The company web site states that the Bush Winch is compatible with alloy wheels, and specifically for a Pajero. But check out the comment by "whizzo" at http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/vi...?f=21&t=122807 (6th comment on the page). Personally, I'm saving up for a Warn and packing my MaxTrax until then.
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...Under that scenario the wheel with the drum would want to pull forward (assuming winching from in front of the vehicle) whilst the wheel on the other end of the axle would tend to want to move towards the rear of the vehicle...

Think I'll stick with a winch anchored to something engineered to carry the strain not one anchored to the wheels
Agree. You're putting all the applied loading way off centre of the optimal recovery point—ideally along the longitudinal centreline of the vehicle. I can see all sorts of unintended induced skewing stresses in the rear axle/suspension assembly. All looks very Mickey Mouse to me.

And, contrary to what the bloke says in the video, I'd never use one of these things on the front wheels!
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