Sorry Toyota, but this ain't going away...

[Peterng]

The DPF problems that are besetting the Toyota 2.8ltr diesel motor may be "heading off to court" and giving Toyota Australia a new headache if reports are true.
It will be a case of bring on the "marching band and dancing girls"...for this circus is going to get very interesting as disgruntled Toyota Hiliux, Prado and Fortuner customers V's Toyota Australia, duke it out in the court of law and of public opinion.
If Toyota Australia were hoping that their manufacturing design problem was going to be "buried" with some marketing "unbreakable" and "market leading" spiel with a dose of "nothing to see here people...move along"..

Ain't going to happen...

http://bannisterlaw.com.au/toyota-class-action-investigation/

[RoyHarvey]

Thanks

Interesting link, thanks for posting.

I had a look for the 'fine print' re no win no fee but couldn't find it.

[Peterng]

I was speaking to a senior mechanic from a Toyota dealership to when he has left for greener pastures and bigger pay...any way..he was saying of the 30 vehicles they had in every day for service..7 out of these 30....especially Prado's would have a DPF issue where the mechanics would either do a "manual burn"..or a "relearn" of the ECU to either throw more fuel into the DPF, lower the initial DFP base line temps for a burn to occur or just increase the frequency.
All these would used in sequence depending on the schedule that Toyota Australia issued..before a complete DFP filter replacement was either considered.
This meant an owner would be strung along for many weeks or even months...dropping off their vehicle many times over the same issue.

Now what is interesting is that he brought up the issue of suspension lifts, chips and exhausts being put on the latest post 2016 small capacity diesel engined 4wd vehicles of all manufacturers..

This is his take...
I digress...but it ws an interesting discussion over a few pre Xmas Sherbets (not the band..mind you)

In respect to the Toyota small capacity 2.8ltr and sundry ECU design...this could happen to any vehicle post 2016+...Dieselgate etc 4wd vehicles especially with small capacity less than 3ltrs.
What has been happening, is that vehicle manufacturers to get to "Euro" specs have been spending $millions on fine tuning their diesel motors...really fine tuning them...where even the "vehicles suspension height" can play a bigger part in the everyday reliability of the ECU process that is going on with the vehicle.
I know this sounds "Dr Who" type of stuff...and personally, "the jury is still out"...
This bloke with all the 15 years Toyota training in Melbourne and Japan..I would think...he knows how to get around a diesel pretty well.
So...
If an owner of a post 2016 CRD diesel 4wd decides to raise the vechicals' height 2", chip it for power and throw on a exhaust...they will run a "heightened risk" of throwing out" the vehicles ECU and it's various scattered sensors all over the engine and drive train.
The post 2016 vehicle have been designed within "ever fine" parameters or air intake, burn temps and sequences to exhaust gas temps and if either of these are changed "even slightly" this could and shorten the reliability of the vehicle and will place a warranty claim in jeopardy.

I mentioned to him about Toyota even getting ARB into bed and allowing mods to HiLuxs and Prado's from the sales floor to be kitted out and the "Rugged" with already a "lift"..the Ford Raptor etc that are out, he said, they are not aftermarket chipped, lifted nor have an exhaust mod, they are standard..

He also mentioned...that the Dealer Workshop diagnostic computer is also now a "Big Brother" for the dealer... especially now with the "inbuilt free or cheaper service periods" that the manufacturers are flogging...
Owners of "W Vehicles"...(vehicles that have a warranty still outstanding) that have " plug n Play" chips..they take these off when they put the vehicle in for a service..so the dealer visually see the chip...
Well... any Hilux or Prado still "under warranty" that came into his workshop with an after market exhaust or a lift was "tagged or red flagged" the diagnostic computer will tell the mechanic that a "Chip" was installed.
This was then put on the owners record and tucked away for safe keeping for the dealers benefit...just in case.
The W Vehicles that came in the chip attached in the harness...this was "golden" for the dealer...photos are taken...time and date...with all diagnostics data all attached to the Dealers records...
Thank you very much..
Talk about giving a person a free kick infront of goal...
He mentioned he had rebuilt 4 post 2016 smaller capacity Diesel engines from vehicles with less than 100k that had been chipped, raised and exhaust enhanced.
Again just stressing the point...he mentioned...all three aftermarket mods being done to a vehicle with a small capacity diesel engine.