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Old 07-10-07
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Hi guys,

Since i made the decision to keep the swb paj I can justify throwing some coin at it. Suspension is high on the agenda and I was set on bilsteins and lovells, however I would be interested to see if any other SWB owners have done anything theres. I know the reports have been excellent on the lwb vehicles but what about the swb? Would the springs be too heavy for the lightweight rear end? I want to avoid it being too harsh in the rear. Arb have told me that the lwb springs are too stiff for the swb and are working on another. Any thoughts?
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For mine the weight is nearing the limit anyhow and the standard weight of the swb is only a couple of passengers short of the lwb weight sO I couldn't see a major problem? I'm considering a spring lift of about 1-2", but am unsure if I absolutely have to change the shockers also (which will put it on hold)?
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I would be changing the shocks before the springs. But I guess I am thinking more for outback touring. The standard shocks look very very small and in all the articles I have read on the NS in the outback, they all say to replace the shocks.

Grant, I would try to find a spring maker in Brisbane who could do some custom springs for you. I have always used Browns Springs in Melbourne and they make up the spring exactly how I want it. All they will need to know is the weight at each wheel.

In Brisbane you could try Dobinson Springs.
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I tried to get full airbag sspension in hte NS - cant be done apparently as the Paj needs a big bags (and dont fit) - needs 9" of dimeter spacing.

Thus looking/priced full OME set up - may go Rancho ajustable shocks (9000xs - hope to get the in cab ajuster kit - I dont think I would ever ajust them manually) with suitable springs (maybe OME) and Poly airbag helpers for when we hitch on the horse float/trailer or just a a bit of weight in the back with the family on board.
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Have people used Rancho's much on Pajero's.

Rancho's never seem to work well on heavier vehicles. They are fine for the lighter Jeeps and the Yanks love them but on anything heavier than 2T they seem to flogg out quickly.
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I would be changing the shocks before the springs. But I guess I am thinking more for outback touring. The standard shocks look very very small and in all the articles I have read on the NS in the outback, they all say to replace the shocks.

Grant, I would try to find a spring maker in Brisbane who could do some custom springs for you. I have always used Browns Springs in Melbourne and they make up the spring exactly how I want it. All they will need to know is the weight at each wheel.

In Brisbane you could try Dobinson Springs.
Have they changed the shocks in the NS? The NM/NP use KYB shocks as original and they're very good.

Kings are a very good off the shelf spring for the NM/NP, and should be fine for the NS as well.
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The current suspension is ok - a little hard but perfet when you have a half load in the back.

A trailer + a load (or a heavy load in the back) makes the back wheels 'splay' out a little and you can feel it from the front. I want ajustable (from cab if possible) so that the feel of the Paj once I get a bit of a lift (in hte next few weeks) is not compromised. I have been told that the OME set up is very good and it wont make it feel like a race car over bumps...however If I cna tune the suspension according to the load/road etc = very happy me (well happier wife and kids = happy me )

May be the Tough Dogs will be better - any thoughts?
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The only way you can have adjustable suspension is to fit Air Bags. Then you can use them to level the rear with a load. This won't do anything to change the shock rates or otherwise "tune" the suspension. It will just make the car ride level. They're not desinged to be adjusted "on the fly".
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The only way you can have adjustable suspension is to fit Air Bags. Then you can use them to level the rear with a load. This won't do anything to change the shock rates or otherwise "tune" the suspension. It will just make the car ride level. They're not desinged to be adjusted "on the fly".
Yep - however the full airbag replacemnt is not possible - so will be getting airbag 'helpers'. These are as you say only for leveling the car with a load.

I am talking about varying the valve rate in the shock absorber. - athis will give me a "smoother ride" or "harder" according to driving conditions i.e. soft for off road '4WDing' and car conditons (i.e. load/on road - driving hard - towing) - there is a good discussion in 4WD monthly on this/how it works etc.
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Looks like I am going lovells springs but cant decide whether to pay the extra for the bilsteins..... Dont have to decide till monday...lovells shocks vs bilstiens... $450 vs $850
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