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Old 05-08-19
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Default Caravan roll over Bruce Hwy

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https://7news.com.au/news/accidents/...rning-c-384034
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Wow!

Very sobering. Looking at the roofline at the end, it's a miracle the occupants had only minor injuries.

Edit: to my inexperienced eye, it looks like a big van - so I went looking for some specs. It looks very much like a Kingdom Kensington Evo; a 2012 model I found reports an ATM of 2660 kg, a 2014 model reports ATM of 2480 kg.

My google search also led to a discussion forum post that a Kingdom van actual weight came in 400 kg above claimed tare. I wonder how actual weight compared to the Gen 3's towing limit? Did the owner know what he/she was towing?
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Lucky escape for those involved. It could have been much worse considering the on coming traffic. Just shows how quickly it can all turn pear shape when the Laws of Physics take over.

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I haven't had my eyeballs calibrated lately, but they appeared to be travelling at a pretty good speed considering the pace at which they were overtaking the camera car.
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Speed, probably badly loaded with weight in the rear behind the van axles and then they hit the bow wave from the truck as they pass. There's a lot of videos on YouTube showing the same thing as they try to change lanes too soon after passing.
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Whilst in Queensland in July, I had lots of big caravans pass me while I was doing 100 gps corrected. I mean, there're on holidays, why not slow down a little, enjoy the trip and get to your campsite 15 mins later, (and save a bundle of fuel) and most importantly improve your chances of arriving.
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Would not be surprised if the caravan was not loaded correctly.


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We came across a 4wd and caravan today laying on its side. All emergency services were in attendance. Dunno how it happened.
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For those that are interested there is a book that explains it all apparently.
https://www.rvbooks.com.au/page/cara...y-they-happen/

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For those that are interested there is a book that explains it all apparently.
https://www.rvbooks.com.au/page/cara...y-they-happen/

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Hmmm.

Critical speed for a (poorly configured) combination my be well below 100km/h, but one of the prevention tips is "never exceed 100 km/h (especially when overtaking)". How does a 100km/h limit help if critical speed is well below 100km/h?

Critical speed is related to the ratio between towing vehicle mass and trailer mass, yet "With almost all locally-made caravans that speed is very close (or under) 100 km/h". A blanket statement making no caveats for caravan mass or tow vehicle mass? With the right towing vehicle, any van could have a much higher critical speed. With the wrong towing vehicle, any van could have a much lower critical speed. How can "... all locally-made caravans" have a critical speed "very close (or under) 100 km/h" if the mass of the towing vehicle is so important?

An overhung tow hitch increases down forces on the rear of the towing vehicle, which is "virtually a recipe for swaying", yet inadequate tow ball mass is also bad. So I need a shorter hitch to reduce down force on the towing vehicle, but a heavier tow ball mass to increase it?

And we wonder why your average punter can't get this right? One can only hope the book itself is clearer than the advertorial.
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