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Where the rubber hits the road. Discussion about drive train; (locking) diffs; wheels; hubs; suspension and, of course, tyres

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Thanks for all the suggestions. Based on price and availability, I think the choice is between ATZ P3, MT51 (which look pretty much the same, together with S/Tmaxx) and KO2. It's a shame KO2 have smaller OD. Duratracs are also interesting but unavailable in LT here.
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Need to be careful with which DuraTrac you buy as they are available in several loading's for many sizes.

For example the LT265/70R17 is available as a ;
C rated 6 ply Light Truck construction 112 Load Index Max Cold Inflation Pressure 50 PSI
and also a
E Rated 10 Ply Light Truck construction 121 Load Index Max Cold Inflation Pressure 80 psi.

Both tares look identical except for the sidewall specifications and the 10 ply is a heavier tyre and a much stronger and robust tyre in tread, shoulder and sidewall construction.
Yep my LT265/75R16 are 123 Load Index.

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Thanks for all the suggestions. Based on price and availability, I think the choice is between ATZ P3, MT51 (which look pretty much the same, together with S/Tmaxx) and KO2. It's a shame KO2 have smaller OD. Duratracs are also interesting but unavailable in LT here.
Ah that sucks.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Based on price and availability, I think the choice is between ATZ P3, MT51 (which look pretty much the same, together with S/Tmaxx) and KO2. It's a shame KO2 have smaller OD. Duratracs are also interesting but unavailable in LT here.
The Kumho MT51 is almost identical in many ways to the Mickey Thompson ATZ P3 except they only seem last about 75% to 80% of the kms that the P3's so this must be a compound difference. Coopers part own both Mickey Thompson and Kumho, and have been told that all 3 tyres share the same carcass construction method but I do not know if all the material specifications are the same.

In Australia the Kuhmo is $50 to $75 a tyre cheaper than the ATZ P3 and about $70 to $90 a tyre cheaper than the ST Maxx. I closely looked at all 3 tyres in May this year when I needed new tyres, after having 2 sets of Cooper ST Maxx I was thinking of trying something different. I looked at Duratracs, ATZ P3 and MT 51, narrowed it down to the ATZ P3 and ST Maxx, but when I got a new ATZ P3 and a new ST Maxx side by side the ST Maxx won out because of better stone ejectors.

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On a recent outback trip of 10k km (75% offroad) my Challenger was running ST Maxx (worn 20k km) and a mate in an Amarok was on ATZ P3 (brand new).

Both vehicles travelled exactly the same route and were loaded to GVM+.

The Amarok tended to always travel that little bit faster than the Challenger 🐇🐢.

At the end of the trip the P3's were noticeably more scarred than the ST Maxx with extensive chips and cuts in the tread blocks.

Variables such as tyre compound & age, tyre pressures or the driver or the vehicle can't be nailed down, but the end result was quite pronounced.
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