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Where the rubber hits the road. Discussion about drive train; (locking) diffs; wheels; hubs; suspension and, of course, tyres

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Old 12-04-19
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Hi to all
I need to change my very noisy Bridgestone 694's to a quite A/T LT. Bob says go with the Yoko,s GO15 and Jax says Falken A/T3.I am after a quiet tyre with wet weather grip that will handle the caravan on the odd trip.
Can anyone comment on these tyres that you have used .
Thanks Mark
I have those Yokos. Yes Quiet, good in the wet and excellent fuel economy.
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Ok,since you want to stay with a standard diameter tyre, you tow heavy, most of your travels are on the bitumen but a little off bitumen and beach work, and you are thinking of a LT construction tyre.

Yokohama GO15- light duty passenger tyre with mild AT tread pattern. Suggest this is too light for your application.

Falken AT3W, Mild AT tread pattern and available in both P265/65R17 116Xl (extra load)
or LT265/65/R17 120 10 ply. Either of these would do the job but the LT is the stronger tyre. I have not heard or read any really bad reports on them.

Pirrelli ATR these have a fantastic reputation as a mild AT and are used by many forum members. They were replaced last year by the AT Plus which has a more aggressive tread pattern but at the moment they are only available in a passenger construction 112 load index, so I believe these will be too light for you.

Hankook ATM RF10, in a LT265/65R17 117 8ply, mild AT tread pattern seem to have a good reputation for a mid priced tyre. Will fit your requirements.currently on special, 4 tyre's $827 online!
https://www.jaxtyres.com.au/tyres/ha...ha2656517rf10s

Bridgestone D697 LT265/65R17 116 8ply, mild tread pattern AT, good reports about wet weather performance but soft sidewalls and shoulders so not so good once you leave good dirt roads. Will fit your requirements.

Toyo AT3, LT265/6517 120 10ply a mild AT tread pattern with a strong carcass. Popular tyre as this is a strong tyre and good value particularly when on special. Will fit your requirements.

Mickey Thompson AT38, this tyre replaced the old ATZ 5 rib which had a great reputation as a mild AT tread pattern with a strong carcass. LT265/65R17 120 10ply this is a strong tyre. Will fit your requirements.

Cooper AT3LT, Cooper has many variants of the AT3 so you need to be careful which one you consider. The AT3LT in a LT265/65R17 120 10ply is a very strong tyre and has a good reputation from those that use them. Will fit your requirements. No other brand of tyre is so polarized, some people hate them, others love them, I do not understand why. My brother has been running these on his very heavily laden work utes since 2011, he does about 60,000kms a year and will not use any other tyre.

Best to keep all 5 tyre's the same and rotate the spare through regularly. No point having a spare that has full tread and is age hardened!
I buy 5 tyre's and rotate spare after 40,000 kms so when I replace the set of tyre's there is a tyre that is about half worn, this tyre becomes the spare for the next set of tyre's and is introduced in to the rotation when the new tyre's have done 40,000kms. So I use 9 tyre's over 140,000-150,000 kms. I change tyres when they have between 3mm and 5 mm total tread depth as by this time they are 3.5 to 4 years old, have got noisy and hard and are more likely to fail when touring. The theoretical value of the 3-5mm tread is less than the excess on comprehensive insurance and you are more likely to not be able to stop or lose control of the vehicle in an emergency situation if you have worn tyre's!

This time around I fitted an internal TPMS, prices have come down a lot so for $208 a 5 tyre unit is good insurance. It only has to save you from ruining even a half worn tyre by early detection of pressure lose and it has paid for itself. If it prevents a blow out and subsequent rollover or accident it could save lives and be the best $200 you have every spent.

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Yep as per OJ if you willing to spend the $$ the coopets are the best. And tbey last forever. And they are good in the wet.

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Thanks Old Jack
That is one the most informed with facts report i have ever been given.I will head down the LT path I don't like cooper tyres/Mickey T's .after bad experience with 4 ribs and ST MAX .
1 Tyre dealer suggested General Grabber at/3 in LT but unsure.I am thinking the wild Peaks in LT .
Thank You for your help
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Thanks Old Jack
That is one the most informed with facts report i have ever been given.I will head down the LT path I don't like cooper tyres/Mickey T's .after bad experience with 4 ribs and ST MAX .
1 Tyre dealer suggested General Grabber at/3 in LT but unsure.I am thinking the wild Peaks in LT .
Thank You for your help
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General Grapper AT3 are available in LT265/65R17 120 10 ply, I have never seen one so I cannot comment on them except with a little research it turns out that General are owned by Continental who make a lot of OEM tyre's for luxury European cars.

Out of interest what vehicle was the MT ATZ 4 rib and the Cooper ST Maxx fitted to, what size and what did you not like about them?

Unless you go the really cheap tyre's, most tyre's are fine but often they don't suit the vehicle, wrong size, not the correct tyre for the intended use and expectation of the driver. Let's take Bridgestone D697 as an example, great on road especially in the wet, comfortable, reasonably quite but travel off the bitumen and heavily loaded and they suffer tread punctures and shoulder/sidewall staking more easily than many other LT AT tyre's. Just ask GeoPaj, Letsgoplaces and Pajero12, they have all had major tyre failures on medium offroad trips I have been on with them.

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Hi Old Jack
I have just fitted the Toyo A/T 3 .Ended up paying $230 each .a few extra dollars now is worth it in the long run .The 4 ribs had wandering problems and seemed to be slippery on wet roads from new .And the ST Max had vibration problems after sitting for 2 weeks .I work away from home 2 on 2 off.
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Another big fan of the Pirelli ATR's here...
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But the pirelli in the 265/65/r17 don't come in LT but P only, am i correct?
And on their website theres' nothing RE number of ply.


Any ideas?

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But the pirelli in the 265/65/r17 don't come in LT but P only, am i correct?
And on their website theres' nothing RE number of ply.


Any ideas?

EDIT
Pirelli AT+ as the ATR are the older model now discontinued

All the tyre sizes below are Passenger Construction tyres, only those with a LT prefix are light truck construction. All the Light Truck construction tyres are "10 ply" which is a load index of 119 or greater. There is one size that is a 8 ply Light Truck, LT245/70/R16 113T.


18
265/60R18 110H
265/65R18 114T
255/60R18 112H XL

17
LT285/70R17 121R
275/65R17 115T
265/65R17 112T
LT265/70R17 121S
245/65R17 111T XL
235/65R17 108H XL
225/65R17 102H

16
275/70R16 114T
265/70R16 112T
LT265/75R16 123S
255/70R16 111T
245/70R16 111T XL
LT245/70R16 113T
LT245/75R16 120R
235/70R16 106T



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Hi OJ.


So yes, the 265/65/r17 does not come in LT.
What about the number of ply for the P models?


I will be looking at new tyres soon, it'll be my first at set, my main doubt is P or LT.
What i do is mainly black stuff (90% hoping to reduce it soon) and beach driving 10%.
Theres some gravel and corrugated here and there but really occasionally. Nothing rocky (im in perth).
And not towing.


Am i better off with P or should i be looking at LT no matter what??


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