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  • BMN
    Valued Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 549
    • Perth WA

    #16
    Originally posted by Tone13 View Post
    Got a quote from the MM stealer for the 200,00km service / timing belt and they quoted $900-$1000.
    They say it's just the belts that get replaced, didn't mention pulleys and said they'd only replace the water pump if there was something wrong with the current one.

    Is this correct?
    Its not really correct or incorrect. The pulleys are just a sealed bearings and you may get to 300k without a water pump issue, but as ks increase the likely hood of these consumable items failing increases. Yes its more a case of preventative maintenance and while these items are accessible during the timing belt change, more cost effective to do now than the cost of tow truck/recovery etc at 260k out bush somewhere.

    If your not planning on hanging on to it just go with belts. If you reckon you will see 300k i would go the full kit.
    Last edited by BMN; 15-08-18, 10:19 PM.
    2010 PB LS Auto, 7seat, silver with lots of pinstripes, Dual batts, Toyo AT2, ARB roof rack, Rear storage/fridge, Bilstien/Kings

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    • Tone13
      Senior Member
      • May 2014
      • 328
      • Victoria

      #17
      Originally posted by BMN View Post
      Its not really correct or incorrect. The pulleys are just a sealed bearings and you may get to 300k without a water pump issue, but as ks increase the likely hood of these consumable items failing increases. Yes its more a case of preventative maintenance and while these items are accessible during the timing belt change, more cost effective to do now than the cost of tow truck/recovery etc at 260k out bush somewhere.

      If your not planning on hanging on to it just go with belts and hope you don't get a phone call that the pulleys and pump need doing. If you reckon you will see 300k i would get the kit.
      FWIW im about to do 200k service and will be doing the full kit and pump.
      Thanks for the reply.

      So what exactly is the kit you recommend and what does it contain?
      2012 Challenger XLS (Blue), Factory Nudge Bar, Full Length Bushskinz, OzTec Outback Shocks with Kings Springs (+50mm), Bridgestone Dueller LT697 A/T's, Rhino Aero bars.

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      • BMN
        Valued Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 549
        • Perth WA

        #18
        Originally posted by Tone13 View Post
        Thanks for the reply.

        So what exactly is the kit you recommend and what does it contain?
        belts and pulleys
        DAYCO TIMING BELT KIT (incl. Hyd Tensioner) KTBA281HMitsubishi Triton ML/MN 2.5 Ltr (from 2008-2014)Turbo Diesel 4D56 EngineWhy replace the timing belt alone ? Worn or wearing tensioners pulleys and idlers can cause a new timing belt to fail in a very short time. A timing belt failure can result in costly engine damage. Dayco Timing Belts when replaced in conjunction with the tensioner idler Pulley and oil seals restore the optimum operating conditions for the timing drive system. All Dayco timing kit components meet or exceed OEM specifications.Kit Includes: 941043 Timing belt (Teeth: 154 / Width: 25.4mm)94522 Timing belt (Teeth: 99 / Width: 19mm)KT07 Timing belt kit tensioner KT190 Timing belt kit tensioner KI203 (x2) Timing belt kit idler HAT41 Hydraulic Automatic Tensioner (Timing).


        Belts, pulleys and pump
        2010 PB LS Auto, 7seat, silver with lots of pinstripes, Dual batts, Toyo AT2, ARB roof rack, Rear storage/fridge, Bilstien/Kings

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        • BMN
          Valued Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 549
          • Perth WA

          #19
          Cheaper here, but not sure on postage.



          Would interesting to know what genuine costs.
          2010 PB LS Auto, 7seat, silver with lots of pinstripes, Dual batts, Toyo AT2, ARB roof rack, Rear storage/fridge, Bilstien/Kings

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          • littleriver
            Valued Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 3339
            • Queensland

            #20
            Originally posted by BMN View Post
            Cheaper here, but not sure on postage.



            Would interesting to know what genuine costs.
            just got the Fleet Guard Filters of them .. prompt post and A class filters

            Free Postage

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            ...
            2012 PB Challenger LS (Manual) Safari Snorkel, OZtec shocks front & rear with King Springs (lift 2 inch) , 22 inch light bar on ECB Nudge bar, roof racks & basket, Bridgestone Duelers 697 LT A/T (116S), Uniden Dash cam, Oricom 2 way radio 80 channel, Ipod connected via glove box usb, Waeco cf50, Garmin gps (with topo), Opticoat + paint protection, Nilrust proofing, Roosystems Ecu Remap

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            • Tone13
              Senior Member
              • May 2014
              • 328
              • Victoria

              #21
              Thanks guys!

              I also see this kit is available. Fair bit cheaper than the Dayco....is Dayco the brand to get?

              2012 Challenger XLS (Blue), Factory Nudge Bar, Full Length Bushskinz, OzTec Outback Shocks with Kings Springs (+50mm), Bridgestone Dueller LT697 A/T's, Rhino Aero bars.

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              • BMN
                Valued Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 549
                • Perth WA

                #22
                If thinking of doing it yourself, go the Dayco or genuine. If getting it done leave up to the service centre, as they have warrent and chase up supplier if there is a warrenty claim. $1500-$1600 sounds ok for full kit and service.
                2010 PB LS Auto, 7seat, silver with lots of pinstripes, Dual batts, Toyo AT2, ARB roof rack, Rear storage/fridge, Bilstien/Kings

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                • Tone13
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 328
                  • Victoria

                  #23
                  Originally posted by BMN View Post
                  If thinking of doing it yourself, go the Dayco or genuine. If getting it done leave up to the service centre, as they have warrent and chase up supplier if there is a warrenty claim. $1500-$1600 sounds ok for full kit and service.
                  Got the MM dealer to do the lot with the full Dayco kit. $1500.
                  2012 Challenger XLS (Blue), Factory Nudge Bar, Full Length Bushskinz, OzTec Outback Shocks with Kings Springs (+50mm), Bridgestone Dueller LT697 A/T's, Rhino Aero bars.

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                  • itsamitsi
                    Valued Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 692
                    • Hervey Bay Queensland

                    #24
                    To those that have done it themselves. How hard are the old seals to pick out? Mines done 85K now and I'm rounding up the bits to replace the belts and idlers at 90K. Looks like I'll use a Dayco kit.
                    Paul 2015 PC Challenger LS Auto - 2" Ultimate lift, Duraturn 265/70/17 A/Ts , catch can and resistor mod, Custom MCC Bullbar ,12000lb winch , Dual batteries ,Boo's Bash plates ,E-Drive throttle controller,Auto Mate, In car entertainment and more.

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                    • BMN
                      Valued Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 549
                      • Perth WA

                      #25
                      Originally posted by itsamitsi View Post
                      To those that have done it themselves. How hard are the old seals to pick out? Mines done 85K now and I'm rounding up the bits to replace the belts and idlers at 90K. Looks like I'll use a Dayco kit.
                      What seals are you referring to ?. I only did the belts at 100k. Idlers where in good condition. and IMO not required at 100k. The hardest part is the crankshaft pulley if considering doing yourself. I made up jig with a long arm that bolts to the pulley and allows you too undo the bolt. Im due for 200k (210k i left the 100k a bit late) and will be doing full kit and water pump.

                      If its the crankshaft seal you are referring, i would not bother at the 100k. Im not going to bother at 200k unless signs of oil......'if it ain't broke'. Levering the old one out would be ok, but it would be pain to tap a new one in, unless you have a hoist. Rear crank seals tend to go before front ones.
                      2010 PB LS Auto, 7seat, silver with lots of pinstripes, Dual batts, Toyo AT2, ARB roof rack, Rear storage/fridge, Bilstien/Kings

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                      • BMN
                        Valued Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 549
                        • Perth WA

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Tone13 View Post
                        Got the MM dealer to do the lot with the full Dayco kit. $1500.
                        Thats a good price IMO. I just did 200k service ( doing belts at 210k) and oils filters cost $350. Engine oil/filter, power steering fluid flush/replace, auto trans fluid flush/replace and fuel filter. Took about 2-3 hrs including picking up parts etc so say $300 labour min. Theres $650-$700 to just replace a few fluids.
                        2010 PB LS Auto, 7seat, silver with lots of pinstripes, Dual batts, Toyo AT2, ARB roof rack, Rear storage/fridge, Bilstien/Kings

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