Which oil to use in NW Pajero?

[HSV Rangie]

Thats what I use.

Use donaldson filters.

Michael.

[Paj People 2009]

Thanks for all your reply's, Have decided to use Penrite HPR Deisel 5 seems to fit all the specs.

HI,

We have used Castrol Magnatec 15W-40 since new in our NT. Our oil changes are done by every 7500km. The dealer uses Castrol Super. He reckons ours is an ideal oil to use - better than the Mits spec they use! Castrol and the dealer told us that the 5W is only necessary for lots of "cold climate use"...like in Tassie or the snow. For anyone in Mid NSW up to North QLD and everywhere in between, the 15W is the preferred spec oil.

Who knows for sure, but so far (35,000km) no probs at all and she's still purring!

Cheers,
Sally

[Morville]

I spoke to the service department of the MM dealer where I bought my NW, asking which oil they use for the NW. They use Valvoline 15W-40, which I understand is a mineral oil, apparently mineral oil is OK if it meets the specifications shown in the owners handbook.
What makes things confusing, engine oil recommendations for the NW are not yet listed on the oil companies websites such as Caltex, Mobil, Valvoline etc, the latest being the NT. The early NT's still had a DPF and the oil recommendation for the NT is for full synthetic oil as required for the vehicles with DPF's. The notes at the bottom of the recommendations say "DPF shown" Apparently the later NT's and NW's do not require an oil to the same stringent recommendations as listed on the websites.
It appears that synthetic oil can be used but is not essential.
I don't know how long it will be before oil companies make recommendations for the NW, which will make things a lot clearer.
Peter

[HSV Rangie]

I use penrite.
5w-40

Eviro is for dpf.
Hpr diesel 5 for current.

Castrol.
Magnatec diesl pro b4. Suits dpf.

If you read the data sheets for the oils all the anCswers are there.

The first lil listed is usualy. Dpf. The next couple are. Ot always suitable for dpf but fine for later nt on

[cranky]

Well i had decided to use the Penrite HPR diesel 5 which i might still use, Supercheap Autos sell it for $91.95 for a 10 litre container, but today i called a local oil supplier who i previously used for my prado and enquired about castrol edge 0W-40 which supercheap sell for $84.95 for 5 litres which is a bit expensive, well my local supplier can get the castrol edge 3X5 litre packs for $94.60 which works out at $31.52 for 5 litres alot better than supercheap. still considering which one, what does everyone think.

Regards
Cranky

[HSV Rangie]

Try repco. I pay $75.00 ish for 10 lt hpr D5 5w-40

[cranky]

Thanks HSV Rangie will give Repco a go, the only thing that concerns my about the Castrol Edge 0W-40 is availability if i am away around Australia. apart from that i think the castrol is a better oil.

[HSV Rangie]

All I know is that the hpr tested ok after 15 k.
I was going to use castrol magtech diesel pro B4 but was to inconvienie t to get.

So penrite seemed the go.

[cranky]

Agree i think the Penrite HPR Diesel 5 will be my choice and its easy to source, next service at 7,500 kms.

[HSV Rangie]

PENRITE

Crankcase
HPR DIESEL 5
HPRD5001, HPRD5005, HPRD5010, HPRD5020, HPRD5060, HPRD5205
Semi-synthetic high performance engine oil for use in the modern generation of high performance diesel engines including turbocharged. Ideal where this viscosity or SAE 5W-30 or 10W-30 is recommended. Primary recommendation for Land Rover Td5, Ford, Mazda, Mercedes and Holden Jackaroo 3.0L diesel engines and those fitted with hydraulically controlled fuel injectors. Also suitable for petrol and LPG engines.
Key Specifications: API CI-4 PLUS/SL, ACEA A3/B4/E7, MB 229.3, Global DLD-2/3 , JASO MA

or HPR DIESEL 15
HPRD15001, HPRD15005, HPRD15010, HPRD15020, HPRD15060, HPRD15205
Semi-synthetic oil designed for use in most modern direct and indirect injection diesel engines including turbocharged. Ideal for new diesel vehicles under manufacturer?s warranty and normal driving conditions. Also suitable for petrol and LPG engines and in motorcycles. May be used where Diesel GS was recommended.
Key Specifications: API CI-4 PLUS/SL, ACEA A3/B4/E7, M2C153F/G, Global DLD-1/3 & DHD-1, JASO DH-1 , JASO MA

or ENVIRO PLUS 10W-40
EPLUS10W40001, EPLUS10W40005, EPLUS10W40010, EPLUS10W40020, EPLUS10W40060, EPLUS10W40205
Full synthetic, OEM Approved low ash (low SAPS) engine oil for modern four stroke turbo charged and naturally aspirated engines. Made using the latest advances in European additive technology. May be used at oil drain intervals of up to 120,000km in European heavy duty diesel engines as well as many light duty diesel engines. Compatible with SCR/DPF equipped trucks and buses. Suitable for use in cooled EGR or normal EGR. Replaces Diesel SP.
Key Specifications: API CJ-4/SM, ACEA E4/E6/E9, Volvo VDS-4 Approved, MAN 3277 CRT/3477/3575, Cummins CES 20081, Mack EO-O Premium Plus Approved, Renault RLD-3 Compliant , MB-Approval 225.1

Service Refill Capacity: 9.8* Litres. See notes 499, 83 below.
Manual Transmission
SIN MANUAL TRANS
SINMT0025, SINMT020, SINMT060
Full synthetic, special low viscosity gear oil designed for use in automotive and motorcycle gear boxes. Can improve cold shift performance.
Key Specifications: MB 235.4

Service Refill Capacity: 3.2 Litres
Automatic Transmission
ATF MHP MULTI VEHICLE SEMI SYNTHETIC AUTO TRANS FLUID
ATFMHP001, ATFMHP004, ATFMHP020, ATFMHP060, ATFMHP205
Semi-synthetic automatic transmission fluid for Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Proton and some Kia motor vehicles. Can be used in these vehicles where MM SP, MM SP2, MM SP3 and DEXRON?-III fluids are specified. Also suitable for Ford, Nissan, Honda and Toyota automatic transmissions and European built Holdens. Suitable for many European 4/5 speed automatic transmissions and as a universal top-up fluid. May be used in power steering units that require ATFs.
Key Specifications: Mitsubishi MM SP3, Chrysler 7176E (ATF+3?/4?), Toyota T-II/T-IV, Nissanmatic C, D, J and K, Opel, MB 236.10/11, LT 71141, ATF 3403, JASO 1A, MERCON?-LV

Service Refill Capacity: 10.9 Litres. See note 13 below.
Differential
HYPOID 80W-90
HYP8090001, HYP80900025, HYP8090020, HYP8090060, HYP8090205
A hypoid and spiral bevel gear oil ideal for differentials and manual gearboxes of cars and trucks.
Key Specifications: SAE 80W-90, API GL-5, PG-2, MT-1, Mack GO-J, MIL-L-PRF-2105E

Service Refill Capacity: 1.6 Litres. See note 15 below.
Power Steering
PAS FLUID
PAS001
Semi-synthetic fluid designed for use in Land Rover ACE and power steering systems. Also suitable for use in power steering systems that require automatic transmission fluids and in all Chrysler/Jeep power steering systems and US built GM/Holden/GMC.
Key Specifications: Land Rover PAS 14315, Chrysler MS 5931/MS9462, MB 236.3, MB 341, Ford M2C195A, GM 9985010

or ATF MHP MULTI VEHICLE SEMI SYNTHETIC AUTO TRANS FLUID
ATFMHP001, ATFMHP004, ATFMHP020, ATFMHP060, ATFMHP205
Semi-synthetic automatic transmission fluid for Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Proton and some Kia motor vehicles. Can be used in these vehicles where MM SP, MM SP2, MM SP3 and DEXRON?-III fluids are specified. Also suitable for Ford, Nissan, Honda and Toyota automatic transmissions and European built Holdens. Suitable for many European 4/5 speed automatic transmissions and as a universal top-up fluid. May be used in power steering units that require ATFs.
Key Specifications: Mitsubishi MM SP3, Chrysler 7176E (ATF+3?/4?), Toyota T-II/T-IV, Nissanmatic C, D, J and K, Opel, MB 236.10/11, LT 71141, ATF 3403, JASO 1A, MERCON?-LV

Service Refill Capacity: 0.6 Litres
4WD Transfer
SIN MANUAL TRANS
SINMT0025, SINMT020, SINMT060
Full synthetic, special low viscosity gear oil designed for use in automotive and motorcycle gear boxes. Can improve cold shift performance.
Key Specifications: MB 235.4

Service Refill Capacity: 2.8 Litres
4WD Differential
HYPOID 80W-90
HYP8090001, HYP80900025, HYP8090020, HYP8090060, HYP8090205
A hypoid and spiral bevel gear oil ideal for differentials and manual gearboxes of cars and trucks.
Key Specifications: SAE 80W-90, API GL-5, PG-2, MT-1, Mack GO-J, MIL-L-PRF-2105E

Service Refill Capacity: 1.15 Litres
Brake
BRAKE FLUID 525
BF0005, BF020
For use in all brake systems and hydraulic clutches requiring non-petroleum type fluids. Typical boiling point 275?C (525F). May be used where DOT 3 or DOT 4 fluids are specified.
Key Specifications:US FMVSS No 116 Super DOT 4, Class 3/270 , AS1960.1-2005 Grade 3, SAE J1703/1704, ISO 4925 Class 3

Radiator
5 YR EXTENDED DRAIN AFAB PREMIX
5YRAFABPMX001, 5YRAFABPMX005, 5YRAFABPMX010, 5YRAFABPMX020, 5YRAFABPMX205
An extended-life, full OAT glycol-based, ready to use anti-freeze/anti-boil with a premium organic inhibitor, suitable for protecting cast iron and aluminium. Meets the most demanding standards for petrol and diesel engine manufacturers. Lasts up to 5 years in light duty vehicles. European OEM approved technology. Coloured magenta. Diluted to 50% concentration.
Key Specifications: AS 2108-2004 Type A, MAN 324-SNF, BMW N 600 69.0, GM6277M, VW/Audi/Skoda TL77D/F (G12/G12+), Isuzu GM 6277M, Ford ESE M97-B44D, MB325.3, JASO M325

Service Refill Capacity: 9.0-10.5 Litres
NOTES
*
Includes Oil Filter
13
Dry fill capacity shown, fill only to full mark.
15
Rear differential.
83
Includes oil cooler.
499
Model with Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) shown.

[HSV Rangie]

Castrol

CRANKCASE
Castrol Magnatec
Professional B4 5W-40
Full synthetic multigrade engine oil specifically engineered for multivalve, high speed engine technology & the latest diesel after treatment systems. Castrol?s proven advanced lubrication technology delivers exceptional performance in all conditions, whether stop-start city or highway driving.


CASTROL EDGE 0W-40 A3/B4
Castrol EDGE 0W-40 A3/B4 with Titanium Fluid Strength Technology is a full synthetic, SAE 0W-40, engine oil formulated for prestige and high performance engines. Castrol EDGE 0W-40 A3/B4 provides outstanding wear protection in performance engines designed to run at their optimum level on lower viscosity oils. Castrol EDGE 0W-40 A3/B4 should be used in engines where maximum efficiency and protection is demanded. *This product is not suitable for vehicles fitted with Diesel Particulate Filters (DPF's).
or CASTROL MAGNATEC DIESEL
Castrol Magnatec Diesel 15W-40 combines Intelligent @*$#@*$#@*$#@*$#cules with dedicated diesel technology for a stronger layer of protection to maintain engine efficency keeping your engine at its peak for longer. Castrol Magnatec Diesel 15W-40 actively maintains fuel economy through viscosity control with excellent soot handling performance which provides less oil thickening and reduced wear. Castrol Magnatec Diesel is suitable for naturally aspirated, turbo charged and inter-cooled turbo charged engines which meets and exceed API SM/CF, ACEA A3/B3.
Service Refill Capacity: 9.8* Litres.
See notes 695, 83 below.

MANUAL TRANSMISSION
CASTROL VMX-M 75W-85
Service Refill Capacity: 3.2 Litres.

AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Refer to Dealer
Service Refill Capacity: 10.9 Litres.
See note 13 below.

DIFFERENTIAL
CASTROL EPX 80W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 1.6 Litres.
See notes 177, 15 below.

POWER STEERING
CASTROL PS FLUID
A mineral based fluid suitable for most power steering systems where the following specifications are nominated: Dexron?, Dexron? II & Dexron? III, SAE 10W or 10W-20 engine oil, ISO 32 or 46 hydraulic oil, Ford M2C-33 F/G, Ford M2C-138 CJ, Ford M2C-166H, Ford Mercon, Ford SQM-2C-9010A and Mitsubishi Power Steering Fluid.
Service Refill Capacity: 0.6 Litres.
See note 302 below.

4WD TRANSFER
CASTROL VMX-M 75W-85
Service Refill Capacity: 2.8 Litres.

4WD DIFFERENTIAL
CASTROL EPX 80W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 1.15 Litres.
See note 177 below.

BRAKE
CASTROL RESPONSE SUPER DOT 4
Castrol Response Super DOT 4 is suitable for use in all brake fluid systems in cars, and light commercial vehicles requiring either a DOT 3, DOT 4 or Super DOT 4 product (Not suitable for use where a mineral oil based fluid is specified).
or CASTROL RESPONSE DOT 4
CASTROL RESPONSE DOT 4 is suitable for use in all brake fluid systems in cars, motorcycles and light commercial vehicles requiring either a DOT 3 or DOT 4 product (Not suitable for use where a mineral oil based fluid is specified).

RADIATOR
CASTROL ANTIFREEZE-ANTIBOIL
A fully formulated, ethylene glycol based coolant designed to meet the requirements of the majority of cars and light commercial vehicles with petrol and diesel engines. Use at 30 - 50% concentration as recommended by the vehicle manufacturer.
Service Refill Capacity: 9.0-10.5 Litres.
See note 921 below.
NOTES
*
Includes Oil Filter
13
Dry fill capacity shown, fill only to full mark.
15
Rear differential.
83
Includes oil cooler.
177
Consistently below 10 deg. C, use CASTROL MULTITRAX or CASTROL SYNTRAX 75W-90.
302
May also use CASTROL TRANSMAX M, CASTROL ATF DEX II, CASTROL TQF, CASTROL TRANSMAX TYPE F, CASTROL TQ DIII or CASTROL ATF DEX III.
695
May also use CASTROL MAGNATEC or CASTROL GTX MODERN ENGINE 15W-40. Model with Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) shown.
921
Do NOT mix Castrol coolant with other brands of antifreeze, coolants or corrosion inhibitors because of possible incompatibility of inhibitors. Follow manufacturer's recommendations for coolant concentration.

[HSV Rangie]

Caltex

Pajero (4x4) NT, 3.2 Litre Turbo Diesel (2008-2010)

Crankcase
HAVOLINE FULLY SYNTHETIC 5W-40
Service Refill Capacity: 9.8* Litres
See notes 499, 83 below.

Manual Transmission
EASYSHIFT SAE 75W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 3.2 Litres

Automatic Transmission
Refer to Dealer
Service Refill Capacity: 10.9 Litres
See note 13 below.

Differential
THUBAN GL5 EP 80W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 1.6 Litres
See notes 177, 15 below.

Power Steering
TEXAMATIC 1888
or HAVOLINE ATF-J
Service Refill Capacity: 0.6 Litres

4WD Transfer
EASYSHIFT SAE 75W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 2.8 Litres

4WD Differential
THUBAN GL5 EP 80W-90
Service Refill Capacity: 1.15 Litres
See note 177 below.

NOTES
*
Includes Oil Filter
13
Dry fill capacity shown, fill only to full mark.
15
Rear differential.
83
Includes oil cooler.
177
Consistently below 10 deg. C, use THUBAN GL5 EP 80W-90.
499
Model with Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) shown.

[cranky]

Well just checked the Castrol & Penrite lube guide this morning and they have updated their site to include the 2011-2012 NW DiD Pajero, nothing really new with the engine oil side of things, however have noticed that Penrite have listed their ATF MHP Multi Vehicle Semi Synthetic Auto Trans Fluid oil as "PA" compatible with the Aisin ATF Gearbox & Mitsubishi Diamond SP-III (SP-3), PA.
Interesting Castrol lube guide still says refer to Dealer ( maybe because castrol supply the 20 litre containers to Mitsubishi).
Regards
Cranky

[Quietguy]

[QUOTE=Morville;218960]I spoke to the service department of the MM dealer where I bought my NW, asking which oil they use for the NW. They use Valvoline 15W-40, which I understand is a mineral oil, apparently mineral oil is OK if it meets the specifications shown in the owners handbook.


My guess is that with fixed price servicing the dealer will use whichever oil that meets minimum specs he can buy at the lowest price = more profit.

Dealers have no incentive to use an expensive oil if a cheaper one meets specs.

David

[danm]

The discussion about Manufacturers declining warranty claims seem unhelpful to me.

The 2012 (3.2L Diesel) Owner's Manual says to determine viscosity requirement first. Most places in Australia would be very well served by an SAE20W-40 product: -10 to 50+ degrees C. Most oils exceed that standard.

The Owner's Manual then says conforming to ACEA - A1/B1, A3/B3, A3/B4, or A4/B5; and API - CD or higher. Most companies have product that meets those specs on their lowest price-point oil and their premium products easily exceed the spec.

My searching found that it would be hard to find a known brand-name diesel oil that did not meet the requirements. Is that not your experience?

Several mechanics have recommended to me over the years, that using an entry level oil (meeting spec) and changing it more frequently is preferable, esp. if vehicle does short trips from cold.

Best regards to all.