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You say “ No sport mode (manual mode)”
Does this mean you used the transmission DRIVE mode for the climb?
If so, you’ll find you’ve done most of the climb in 3rd gear. This causes a lot of torque converter slippage and the heat. My advice is next time use SPORT mode in 2nd, or 1st gear to reduce the load on the torque converter.
So I ll do a very similar trip again in the next few days, I will stick to sport mode 1st/2nd during the climbs...
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Thanks Marshall,
My NW has the interlock but your tips will be put under R for remember, I'll be in touch
Andy
Our MY12 NW does not have the brake and ignition interlock so it came in on later NW's. However my MY13 Colorado does and it can be a PITA at times, particularly servicing it. The Colorado has a small plastic cap near the gear lever when removed reveals a button that can be pushed with a small screwdriver or similar to release the interlock if your battery is flat or otherwise no power and you need to move or tow the vehicle.
I expect the later Pajero's with the interlock would have a similar interlock release device.
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Our MY12 NW does not have the brake and ignition interlock so it came in on later NW's. However my MY13 Colorado does and it can be a PITA at times, particularly servicing it. The Colorado has a small plastic cap near the gear lever when removed reveals a button that can be pushed with a small screwdriver or similar to release the interlock if your battery is flat or otherwise no power and you need to move or tow the vehicle.
I expect the later Pajero's with the interlock would have a similar interlock release device.
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Did a long trip again this weekend and had huge climbs in it. I kept it in Sport, 2nd gear. No warning light. Thanks for the advise.

By the way, when do I know the torque converter clutch is locked? Is it after a certain RPM level?
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It can lock up when several parameters are met. Speed is only one of them.

To feel what it's like, drive on a flat road at about 90kph and it should be locked and in 5th. As you come to an incline, you'll feel the engine revs increase, almost as if it's changing down a gear but it isn't. It's actually unlocking the TC and the revs will increase quite a bit to get up the incline.

Anther way is to be driving at a fixed speed and then give the car some acceleration. If it reacts quickly, the TC is locked. If it's a bit spongy, it's not locked.

The beauty of Auto Mate or Lock Up Mate is that you have a blue light to tell you when it's locked.
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It can lock up when several parameters are met. Speed is only one of them.

To feel what it's like, drive on a flat road at about 90kph and it should be locked and in 5th. As you come to an incline, you'll feel the engine revs increase, almost as if it's changing down a gear but it isn't. It's actually unlocking the TC and the revs will increase quite a bit to get up the incline.

Anther way is to be driving at a fixed speed and then give the car some acceleration. If it reacts quickly, the TC is locked. If it's a bit spongy, it's not locked.

The beauty of Auto Mate or Lock Up Mate is that you have a blue light to tell you when it's locked.
And a dash display telling you what gear you are in rather than just "D" for "dunno".
Once you have had a Lockup Mate or Auto Mate you will not know how you ever lived without one, same goes for paddle shifters when off road.

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It can lock up when several parameters are met. Speed is only one of them.

To feel what it's like, drive on a flat road at about 90kph and it should be locked and in 5th. As you come to an incline, you'll feel the engine revs increase, almost as if it's changing down a gear but it isn't. It's actually unlocking the TC and the revs will increase quite a bit to get up the incline.

Anther way is to be driving at a fixed speed and then give the car some acceleration. If it reacts quickly, the TC is locked. If it's a bit spongy, it's not locked.

The beauty of Auto Mate or Lock Up Mate is that you have a blue light to tell you when it's locked.
As IanH said, once you learn what it feels like you can tell whether to not it is locked. The main parameters for lockup are speed and engine load (accelerator pedal position). Unfortunately the transmission readily unlocks it under quite light load, and will not lockup until in 4th or 5th gears

This is where lockup-mate to auto-mate benefit, as they are designed to keep the torque converter locked up as a priority, right down to 2nd gear.

In the Pajero, another way to check if the TCC is locked or not is to monitor the two transmission temperature sensors - the pipe temperature and pan temperature. When the two are the same value you know the torque converter is locked. When it is unlocked, the pipe temperature is higher due to the torque converter slipping and heating up the oil.

See this thread for details. Also look at the video in this thread to see how the temperatures change while driving, and when locked or unlocked.
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