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Default 2022 Pajero Sport QG? and Triton Hybrid

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Interesting, unfortunately the PEV uses a rubber band transmission which would last 5 minutes if towing a digger etc. So hopefully they will develope PEV with a proper Auto.

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By 2030 I think this type of technology like it or not will be more the norm than not?
It appears that is the way the market is heading & no one really knows??

But the biggy that plays on my mind is, buying todays technology currently which can easily last 10 to 15 years depending on your useage takes ownership through to 2030/ 2035's.

What will the re-sale value of that vehicle be or is it destine for the scrap heap due to cost of ownership/ fuel by then which will weigh on re-sale values?
Could make current technology highly sort after as well

One saving grace is I suppose as trucks use diesel, at least the fuel should still be available, although at what cost it remains to be seen?

The other reality is the good old government still requires their pound of flesh, fuel at the moment they make billions 43 + cents excise + GST must take that too high 0.50 cents per litre earn & somehow or rather will do the same out of new technology vehicles in the long term or be n our pockets another way??

Interesting times alright
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Good points. Can these new diesels run on coconut oil? May be the answer.

The worst thing about any hybrid is the reliance on ICE technology and this seems odd to me. I loved the economy test Topgear did on comparing a Toyota Prias with the BMW M5 silly I know but also enlightening. If I was towing my tractor with a hybrid there is a strong likelihood that my PS will use less fuel than a Outlander PHEV and with less wear and tear. I use these two for obvious reasons but also because I was thinking of buying a PHEV till I read it used the CVT.
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I was thinking of buying a PHEV till I read it used the CVT.
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Outlander PHEV use a electric motor in the front and the rear to drive the vehicle
they don't have a CVT
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Thats news oh well not what I was led to believe. Not that it matters to me. Thanks for that though.

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Correct, no CVT on the PHEV.

The future for 4wds is Hybrid Electric. DC electric hub motors on each wheel so no diffs, gearboxes or transfer cases, just a small internal combustion engine working at peak efficiency, driving an electric generator supplying a high capacity battery and the hub motors. Regenerating brakes will recover some of the energy loses associated with braking.

DC motors produce huge amounts of torque so moving heavy load is not a problem, this is what diesel/electric locomotives and huge mining trucks have.
DC motors fitted to sports cars are the quickest accelerating production vehicles.

I have had an Outlander PHEV as a loan car several times and have been very impressed with the technology, drive experience and the fuel economy. If I needed an AWD family wagon this would be on the top of my shopping list. If I need a mid size hatchbak then the Toyota Prus C would be my choice and a family sedan would be the Camry Hybrid.

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Correct, no CVT on the PHEV.

The future for 4wds is Hybrid Electric. DC electric hub motors on each wheel so no diffs, gearboxes or transfer cases, just a small internal combustion engine working at peak efficiency, driving an electric generator supplying a high capacity battery and the hub motors...
DC motors produce huge amounts of torque so moving heavy load is not a problem, this is what diesel/electric locomotives and huge mining trucks have.
DC motors fitted to sports cars are the quickest accelerating production vehicles.
Hub motors don't have enough torque for automotive use, and the higher torque designs tend to be speed restricted. Also they increase unsprung weight significantly. Electric motors still tend to need gears. For instance, the Tesla Model S has a 10:1 reduction.
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Hub motors don't have enough torque for automotive use, and the higher torque designs tend to be speed restricted. Also they increase unsprung weight significantly. Electric motors still tend to need gears. For instance, the Tesla Model S has a 10:1 reduction.
Have a look at the Rivian RS1

https://rivian.com/r1s/

Ford have Hybrid and full electric version of the F150 ute and Explorer coming.
https://www.motor1.com/news/368920/f...electric-2021/

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