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Thanks for all the suggestions/information. I have now ordered the Exped Megamat duo. I have found that while people debate tents quite a bit, no one who has seen or tried the Exped mattresses gives them anything less than top marks. I'm buying it sight unseen, but at the price Snowy's have it for currently (thanks Turorit!) it seemed like too good of an opportunity not to increase my budget to accommodate. The Dune Queen for $99 currently also looks amazing value, but I'm happy to pay more for the Exped in this instance.

I haven't ordered the tent yet as the discussion here has prompted me to double check I really want the AirVolution tent, but I am pretty sure that is what I will be ordering.
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The Darche AT6 certainly looks interesting and the PR blurb seems to tick all your boxes.
Found this 18% off offer and reviews online.
https://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/dar...811#videoblock

Sometimes you just have to jump in a try something new if you can afford to take the risk.

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Hi Kiwi,
Havenít seen the air ones in use but where I like to go, (and similar to you judging by the pictures) my Coleman wasnít up to the task. Actually it never fully let me down but it was often very unpleasant in the wind.
When looking for a replacement strength in wind was the highest priority and eventually I found one I could stand in, a torpodo7 geodesic design that I can still stand in. So far so good, more stable in the wind but not as many user friendly parts as a Coleman with all their air vents etc.
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I'm in Sydney currently and have the new 2017 model Darche AT-6 set up in my sisters garden, with Exped Megamat Duo inside. Both products are exceptionally good. The Exped is the most comfortable mattress I've slept on and doesn't feel at all like an airbed, and not even so much like a self-inflating mat, it feels like a supportive real mattress.

I'll need to get practiced with the Darche Airvolution to see how quick I can get at setting it up. Having only set it up once my focus was on reading the instruction manual to make sure I was doing everything correctly. My initial impression is that quality of materials and quality of design are pretty much 10 out of 10. Seems very stable without the guy ropes set up such that I believe I will only need the guy ropes on occasions when it's quite windy. I should point out that the later model Airvolution models like mine have inflatable ridge poles as well as the inflatable arch poles and I think this likely adds greatly to stability. It was $1,199 from Tentworld. A somewhat expensive tent, but I'm happy to pay that as long as the build quality and robustness are up to my expectations, and my current impression is that it is worth the money. We plan to be pretty much living out of this tent for the first 3 to 4 months of 2018.
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Dragging this one out of the depths, came across this thread via a google search.

Thinking of upgrading to an AT6 for the family camping, what do you think of it after spending some time with it?
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Dragging this one out of the depths, came across this thread via a google search.

Thinking of upgrading to an AT6 for the family camping, what do you think of it after spending some time with it?
The good points:

- quality of design and materials are very good. I like the integrated double roof, mesh everywhere when you want it, quality floor, all zips are still working etc
- no separate fly to put over! It's all integrated into the design. Saves time and better if you have to set up in rain.

The not so good points:

- although all seam sealed has been subject to some leaks. I contacted Darche - they replied very quickly, but only to say that it wasn't possible for the tent to leak because it's waterproof etc. Not that helpful. They did say however that they had no other reports of water ingress for the 2017 revised model onwards. This shouldn't put you off.

- heavy. But all quality tents will be heavy.

- there are a lot of pegs needed. Not too much of an issue, but if going into hard ground setup time increases commensurately.

General comments:

- it's reasonably quick to erect, but I would have liked faster. I can put it up, including all pegging (not including guy ropes, as these are only needed in high winds, as usually very stable) in about 17 minutes. I can put up many tents in that time (working alone) so it's not hugely faster, however there are no fiddly poles. That said, pumping the air poles still takes some work. I can fully pack it away, back in its bag, in under 9 minutes.

- wind performance is mixed. We've had it up in some pretty darn strong winds! It really needs to be lengthwise into the wind, as the air poles buckle if strong winds hit it from the side. This seems like a weakness, but bear in mind that when a tent with poles finally buckles in high wind its because the poles snapped. With air poles they don't break - can just push them back out. There would be some tents with poles that have better wind resistance, up to the point when they snap poles. By way of contrast my tent before this Darche was an Oztrail fast frame tent - we had strong winds that summer and it was dead and dumped within a month! Not a suitable expedition tent. I also note from that summer seeing an OzTent standing up just fine in the same winds that were slowly destroying the Oztrail. Those winds were fierce and would have pushed the Darche over a few times, but it would have survived undamaged.

- if its already windy when setting up you can position accordingly, but if the wind comes later it may end up being a less side wind. In very strong winds I've managed by putting out the guy ropes and marginally over-inflating the poles to get them more rigid. (Next day let some air out so that in the heat of the day/sun it doesn't get too much).

All in all a good solid long lasting tent. Very nice and pleasant internal space, pleasant to be in. Polyester material will get hotter than real canvas in direct sun, though the double roof with ventilation does help out... and if this tent was real canvas it would end up being over 40kgs at least.


Now that we're travelling every day, setting up and packing up daily, I've been reconsidering a roof top tent, in family size, with a sealed floor annex, such as made by Darche or Howling Moon. But to get the best out of that setup I'd need to reconsider the vehicle too. I.e. double cab ute with alloy canopy.

My overall score for this tent is 8.5 out of 10.

Back when I posted this thread I was also looking for mattresses. The Exped Megamat turned out to be the best quality and most comfortable mattress I ever purchased and is worth the high price.
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The not so good points:

- although all seam sealed has been subject to some leaks. I contacted Darche - they replied very quickly, but only to say that it wasn't possible for the tent to leak because it's waterproof etc. Not that helpful. They did say however that they had no other reports of water ingress for the 2017 revised model onwards.
It can't leak, but later models are better because they were revised?

How did they know they needed to revise the sealing if it couldn't leak?
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I had an Darche air tent. Bought it second hand. It had only been used once before. AT6, I think. 3 years ago. Bloody heavy thing to lug about and thought that the ridge poles for the roof where an after thought. Wasn't really impressed with it to tell the truth. I didn't even bother taking it camping. Set it up twice in the backyard to get a feel for it. Not for me. Sold it 3 weeks later for same price as I bought it. Prefer the Coleman instant up... a hell of a lot better as I found it quicker and easier to set up. Solid and waterproof. I see Jayco are using a similar set up as the Darche for one of their campers annex.
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It can't leak, but later models are better because they were revised?

How did they know they needed to revise the sealing if it couldn't leak?
Yeah, I wasn't really too impressed with that response. I was contacting them to inform them that it WAS leaking, not to debate whether it was possible for the tent to leak. Not aimed at Darche, as I don't consider my potential approach on warranty determined yet, but more generally there would seem to be too many companies these days that offer warranties that imply they really stand behind their products, yet their true specialism is in dodging warranty claims.

Overall I do like the Darche AT6. But I perhaps should have pointed out that it's weight might be more an issue for some. I throw it overhead up on top of my roof rack. Though I'm getting older, I've long been involved in weightlifting - even when I travel I search out a weightlifting gym in cities and usually find one. Throwing a Darche AT6 onto roof racks wouldn't suit everyone.
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