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Old 24-10-14
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Looking at doing a future Simpson / Hay River tour and considering using a diesel bladder in lieu of jerry cans for the extra 100/150 litres I would need to carry.
Only found one reference on the forum to somebody using a Flexitank water bladder without issues, but a contact I have has heard of several reports of bladders - both diesel and water - leaking.
Looking for anybody with firsthand experience with the diesel bladder.
Don't particularly want to carry 4 or 5 jerry cans, and too expensive to fit a long range tank, or aux. Also don't want to relocate the spare wheel.
at least a bladder, I can resell later if no longer needed.
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Old 26-10-14
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I would personally feel a lot more comfortable with jerries.

I imagine you are looking at a single bladder to hold that fuel? If that leaks, all is gone. Multiple jerries means if one leaks you will lose a smaller amount. Also less likely to suffer damage. Where do you plan on storing the bladder? You couldn't put things on top of it for example.

You can re sell jerries afterwards too..
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Hi Rob
I echo what Alex has said where are you thinking of putting the bladder and I would definitly not carry diesel in the inside think about what will happen if it leaks I also think the bladders are made for water not fuel it will be a pain I know having jerrys on the roof if you have a rack but at least they have less chance of leaking you could always have a double jerry can holder made and attached to the spare wheel holder
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Thanks Alex and Georgie
Flexitank do make specific diesel bladders in a variety of sizes, and they are designed to go in the rear footwell behind front seats. As there would only be 2 of us, no problem with anything being on the bladder. Also I would lay a sheet of heavy carpet under and on top of the tank.
Agree with you about the problem of leakage, and have heard about this happening, hence the call out to anybody who has actually had experience with fuel bladders; especially Flexitanks.
As stated, do not want to fit a rear jerry can carrier, nor especially don't want to place 100-150Kg of fuel on the roof racks (bloody dangerous in my books with such a high centre of gravity, on sand dunes especially.) Not to mention the ratings of the rails/racks.
Other possibility using jerries is to remove one or both rear seats to prove extra floor space, and then I can carry say 6-8 jerries with both fuel and water: something I have to carry anyway.
Probably get away with 80 litres of extra fuel as longest distance is about 650Km between supply, and @ say 18l/100klm, I would only need a reserve of 60 litres, so 4 jerries of fuel is plenty.
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Hey robdavo. I would go the removal or the rear seats for the extra space. I have done this in my challenger and it is a 2 seater full time now. Just 8 bolts to undo and the rear seats simply lift out. Then the possibilities are endless. Make up a false floor, drawers or whatever suits your needs for storage and away you go.
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The Flexitank diesel bladder is 2 layer which will offer secondary catchment.

http://www.flexitank.com.au/flexi-ne...-outdoors-show

Pretty proven technology in other fuel applications
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carrying that extra fuel can be a pain the the butt and its hard to satisfy all the criteria of avail space, centre of gravity and so on. the bladders certainly are available to suit diesel and another option I looked into are the seemingly large range of fuel rated plastic tanks available, in particular from boating outlets. You get more peace of mind against spillages and they seem to be available in a huge range of sizes and shapes including low profile. One advantage is the option of being able to hook into the tanks and transfer fuel on the go, hope that helps, Cheers Alan
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G'day, I have the 140L Flexitank water bladder.
So far so good, I find it better than I thought it would be.
You do need to treat it gently, I wrapped it in under felt and made a compartment from mdf to put it in.
But it works better than I expected, especially the fact that it collapses as you use it, so no sloshing noise and the space becomes available as it's emptied. Not to mention the lower centre of gravity. I've been driving around with the tank full for a total of 5 weeks now, 2 weeks of that off road.
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I think Boab make a poly tank to sit in the rear footwell, similar to the bladder shown above, but don't know if it fits the Paj. Might be more durable but won't shrink as the fuel is used. Keeping the weight low and central is best. I think Opposite Lock handle Boab.
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i have thought about a bladder for water and or fuel in the the rear most seat well,for the pajero anyway
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