Help - buying MY14 NW Exceed

[NW_Exceed_MY14]

Hi fellows

This is my first post so hoping to get some help. I am looking to buy a 2014 Exceed and got an RAC inspection (Perth, WA) but they have come up with some vague comments.
Just wondering if someone can shed some light on this.

The car has done only 55k kms and looks very good.

Cheers.

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[aussieintas]

Regarding points oil overfull, brake fluid and air filter.......sounds like a service would sort these out with new oil, filters and fluid. If the oil is only just a bit overfull this isnt an issue in my opinion. It will be due a service at 60000kms, they are every 15000kms.

Door strut........they do move a bit, well mine does. They are not rock solid. Only way would be feel the movement against another Pajero.

Tyre wear......could just require an alignment and obviously new tyres if near to limit.

Battery recharge........if been standing for a bit, especially in a car yard or dealer yes the battery may be a bit low in charge. Being a 2014 model it may be the battery is on its way out.

Regarding excessive smoke and oil weep. These may have to be looked at further. Where is it weeping from......a seal or is it just some spilt oil?? Most diesels emit smoke under heavy load, some kore than others.

May be worth a mechanic who knows Pajeros to have a look at some of these points. Also could be a point to bargain with the price.

[DibbyDibbyDJ]

ok, 4 tyres in 55k? Been driven hard i think.


Oil leak? Sump FIPG leaking. Leaks collect at rear of sump


Brake fluid needs changing


Excessive smoke under heavy load? Could be made worse bydirty air filter. Not normally heavy smokers

[NW_Exceed_MY14]

Thanks @DibbyDibbyDJ and @aussieintas for quick and detailed replies. Much appreciated. The seller has organised a follow up meeting with his normal service garage and I will go and discuss these issues with them.

[Ky1e]

Buy it and I'll swap you for my NS..

[Jasonmc73]

Hi fellows

This is my first post so hoping to get some help. I am looking to buy a 2014 Exceed and got an RAC inspection (Perth, WA) but they have come up with some vague comments.
Just wondering if someone can shed some light on this.

The car has done only 55k kms and looks very good.

Cheers. [ATTACH]42915[/ATTACH]

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Well there is two ways of looking at it?
At least you know it would seem upfront it hasn't been serviced overly well, but looks to be not a lot of kilometres.
Is there service records available?
Dirty air filter if it is actually retsrictive dirty, will absolutley make the engine blow black smoke,
Needs a set of tyres & wheel alignment
Allow for a battery, batteries don't like low charge, might last few weeks, might last 2 years with a charge?
Has an oil leak.

If it was me, these things if k's appeared genuine via wear & tear around vehicle floor, seats, gearsticks, rear cargo area, underneath etc, probably wouldnt bother me one bit, but I would be pricing it accordingly to bring it back to what you want it to be.
There is always another vehicle to buy depending on what value at what price.

[BruceandBobbi]

Well there is two ways of looking at it?
At least you know it would seem upfront it hasn't been serviced overly well, but looks to be not a lot of kilometres.
Is there service records available?
Dirty air filter if it is actually retsrictive dirty, will absolutley make the engine blow black smoke,
Needs a set of tyres & wheel alignment
Allow for a battery, batteries don't like low charge, might last few weeks, might last 2 years with a charge?
Has an oil leak.

If it was me, these things if k's appeared genuine via wear & tear around vehicle floor, seats, gearsticks, rear cargo area, underneath etc, probably wouldnt bother me one bit, but I would be pricing it accordingly to bring it back to what you want it to be.
There is always another vehicle to buy depending on what value at what price.

If it's the rear main seal or the sump it's a bloody costly exercise.

Our NS had both done under warranty.

[Jasonmc73]

If it's the rear main seal or the sump it's a bloody costly exercise.

Our NS had both done under warranty.

Yeah price it accordingly or buy another one.

[Keithyv]

What price are they asking?

Personally if in doubt I'd move on.

For a comparison I bought my 2014 NW about 18 months ago with about 40,000km on it and the brake fluid was clear (still is), not a whiff of oil anywhere and all tyres were evenly worn with still a bit of life left (I replaced all 4 at about 55,000km)

Inside and out was basically new - as I'd expect almost any well looked after car to be, even at 55,000 km and only 4 -5 years old...

[nj swb]

Hi fellows

This is my first post so hoping to get some help. I am looking to buy a 2014 Exceed and got an RAC inspection (Perth, WA) but they have come up with some vague comments.
Just wondering if someone can shed some light on this.

The car has done only 55k kms and looks very good.

Cheers. [ATTACH]42915[/ATTACH]

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• Oil level overfull.
• Service light not reset.
• Uneven tyre wear.
• Dirty brake fluid.
• Battery charge recommended.

All of these suggest to me that the vehicle has been driven hard at some stage, not well maintained, and not driven much lately (battery charge low). Can the seller explain that?

As for the dirty air filter, check the service schedule - I don't think the factory schedule mandates a change at every 15k km service, so last service might not have required a new filter.

To me, all of the above is indicative of poor service, which devalues the vehicle - but doesn't make it worthless. If you can buy it at the right price it might still be worthwhile - but it needs to be at the lower end of the spectrum, it certainly doesn't seem worth a price premium.

[Jasonmc73]

• Oil level overfull.
• Service light not reset.
• Uneven tyre wear.
• Dirty brake fluid.
• Battery charge recommended.

All of these suggest to me that the vehicle has been driven hard at some stage, not well maintained, and not driven much lately (battery charge low). Can the seller explain that?

As for the dirty air filter, check the service schedule - I don't think the factory schedule mandates a change at every 15k km service, so last service might not have required a new filter.

To me, all of the above is indicative of poor service, which devalues the vehicle - but doesn't make it worthless. If you can buy it at the right price it might still be worthwhile - but it needs to be at the lower end of the spectrum, it certainly doesn't seem worth a price premium.

100% agree with this,
Great thing is you seen it warts & all, should see that as a positive, guy certainly isn't hiding the fact .
Not always bad thing, could pay a premium & he had had it all shiney like a car yard would.

Plenty more out there to buy otherwise deduct as someone has too pay.
Full service, oil leak, tyres, battery, wheel alignment, tidy up & whatever else, your time to muck around if you choose too from what you think it is worth in good condition too you.
Whatever your figure is, not the seller.
Work it out & thats the offered price.

If you want the vehicle that is.
If he says no, well remind him in a couple of weeks your still around
There will be another car to buy otherwise.
Unless it is an urgent purchase just remember cash is king & they want to sell the car!

It's low k's, if your happy the wear & tear match the k's that is, but it is 5 year old remember that when pricing.

If it was 200,000k's I would run if like that !!

That's how I like to buy anyhow & I always like buying private, skips the dealers margains. They would have detailed, tidied up, you wouldn't have a clue & you would pay premium.

Same way we price up machinery for trade in machinery yards.

[spot01]

As mentioned, it sounds like the servicing has not been the best, so budget for a full major service including the listed items + coolant & tappet adjustment (unless proof they have been done). My guess is allow about $1,500 perhaps more - get a service quote from a dealer & use it to negotiate price. Tyres & possible battery would be extra if required.


Sometimes a protective wax seeps out between the bell housing & engine, which looks like an oil leak but isn't. The wax is more brown in colour than oil. Normal process is to wipe it off & see if it reappears, but you probably won't have a chance to do this.


Also check the VIN number on the MMAL website to ensure all recalls have been completed.

[BruceandBobbi]

Sometimes a protective wax seeps out between the bell housing & engine, which looks like an oil leak but isn't. The wax is more brown in colour than oil. Normal process is to wipe it off & see if it reappears, but you probably won't have a chance to do this.

Out-dealer thought that. Lucky it was done under warranty as it's a few $1,000 job. I believe the sump gasket whatever can not be replaced insitu.

[DibbyDibbyDJ]

Out-dealer thought that. Lucky it was done under warranty as it's a few $1,000 job. I believe the sump gasket whatever can not be replaced insitu.

Probably a 2-3 hour job. Poor adhesion of FIPG due to bad prep at engine assembly causes leak. Certainly a warranty job

[Dicko1]

Any oil weeps means its not roadworthy. My original Yokohama tyres only lasted 28,000klms. On my 3rd battery in 5 years...original lasted 12 months, 2nd lasted 3 years.


I,d expect to pay $30,000 tops.