Jacking errm ... up

[linc]

ding ding ding! round 1!

Who uses what, and why? Hilift? Exhaust?
I don't have either at the moment, although had a fair bit to do with hilifts when working out bush a number of years ago. Never personally had a bad experience, but have heard a bit about them biting folks in bad ways.

The laughable OEM jack (05 NP) doesnt even get your frigging rear tyres off the ground, but I have another tray jack which does me ok for the odd 'carpark flat' (like the time I drove straight over a beer bottle at the local squash courts and tore a 15mm gash in my tyre...thanks for using the bin, mate!)

[marcthelegend]

lol jacking off in the techniques section, this should raise a few eyebrows lol.

I have used the factory bottle jack a few times to change tyres, but lately I find that it takes alot longer to pump up and it never actually gets the tyres off the ground anymore, could be wear and tear? anyway i find myself driving around with a brick in the car just go get that ground clearance.

High lift is definitely out of the question because I dont have a bull bar (or anywhere to attach it to the rear) and its also unsafe to use when changing tyres (or so I am told).

Trolley jacks seem a little on the heavy side to cart around, but definitely an option for me.

Scissor jacks I cant see working at all with the pajero, and that leaves bottle jacks again, which as we know, doesnt really get the tyres off the ground (I havent even got bigger tyres on it!).

Might have a look at a trolley jack to cart around as its better than a brick

Cheers

Marc

[jcd]

I have used the factory bottle jack a few times to change tyres, but lately I find that it takes alot longer to pump up and it never actually gets the tyres off the ground anymore, could be wear and tear? anyway i find myself driving around with a brick in the car just go get that ground clearance.

A couple of months ago I had the opposite problem in that I couldn't get the genuine Mits bottle jack under the rear jacking point (SWB NS), as the jack was too high when the tyre was completely deflated. Luckily I was on a good firm dirt patch so I got the shovel out and made enough room under it to get the jack in place. I didn't really have a problem getting the jack up high enough to get the old tyre off or the new one on, although I am looking for something better to work the jack than the supplied tyre lever. Come to think of it, I'm looking for a better way of undoing the wheel nuts as it took quite a bit of effort (i.e. Me jumping on the lever a few times) with the supplied tyre lever.

Bye Jeff.

[marcthelegend]

A couple of months ago I had the opposite problem in that I couldn't get the genuine Mits bottle jack under the rear jacking point (SWB NS), as the jack was too high when the tyre was completely deflated. Luckily I was on a good firm dirt patch so I got the shovel out and made enough room under it to get the jack in place. I didn't really have a problem getting the jack up high enough to get the old tyre off or the new one on, although I am looking for something better to work the jack than the supplied tyre lever. Come to think of it, I'm looking for a better way of undoing the wheel nuts as it took quite a bit of effort (i.e. Me jumping on the lever a few times) with the supplied tyre lever.

Bye Jeff.

an awesome method is to use the bar for pumping the jack, and sliding it over the tyre wrench thingo, this acts as a breaker bar which will give you ALOT more power.

Cheers

Marc

[dehydrated]

My recently purchased NM never came with a factory jack or handle (or toolkit), and I can't seem to find any. I would be interested to see what other alternatives people have adopted as I feel uncomfortable driving around with out a jack.

[Bernoulli]

Come to think of it, I'm looking for a better way of undoing the wheel nuts as it took quite a bit of effort (i.e. Me jumping on the lever a few times) with the supplied tyre lever.

After watching the tire store guys having to destroy a frozen lug stud to get a rear tire off, I have made it a practice to always use never-seize on the studs and torquing the nuts minus 10%. Torque values are dry unless specified otherwise.

There are Hi-Lift attachments to get your vehicle up, but you'll need some sort of rest (bottle jack?) once it's up so the tire can be removed - remember to break loose the lug nuts first.

[Honky]

Has anyone used the 12 volt scissor lifts sold in accessory shops.
They state that they are good for 2t.
reliability would be a major issue.

Honky

[kiwipajero]

Personally i havent used a high-lift jack at all! Never really got into a situation where I needed one...although I imagine there will be the day when I need one and I don't have one. LOL

When I got my Pajero the first thing I did was add a tool kit to replace the factory crap one. I also replaced the bottle jack with a heavier duty/larger/high quality one, and always carry 3 blocks of wood to achieve a solid base/extra height that is sometimes needed.

I also "never-seized" all my wheel studs to ensure I could always get the buggers off, and have a length of pipe in my tool kit to make loosening/tightening studs alot easier.

In my tool kit I have a couple of cans of tyre weld which is great stuff if you're caught without a spare and only have a small leak in your tyre.

Reckon its easier to be prepared and able to do a repair job quickly and efficiently than not at all! 90% of the time I'm driving in rural areas and the last thing I want to have to do is walk 50kms to wake up the nearest farmer!

Josh.

[Rugrat]

Who uses what, and why? Hilift? Exhaust?

I use a Hilift - yes they can be dangerous - but so are loaded guns .

MAJOR point when using a hi-lift - MAKE SURE ITS STABLE and vertical. Get it on an angle and you may just need that first-aid kit

Used correctly they are quick, easy and versatile. The camper didn't have a jack and the STD bottle jack, sissor jack wouldnt be to helpful. The Landies standard jack (windup highlift style) was a PITA and a POS so i bought a proper highlift. The Jeep and the Landie have bars and side steps to lift off so it works a treat.

[THE BRONZE]

trolley jacks

I work for a mining company and all our vehicles have trolley jacks, don't buy a cheap one and they will get to the right height (unless your a haulpak) It still amazes me though, you spend shit loads of coin on a new vehicle/4wd and what do you get...crap tools and a crap jack

[Fro]

My recently purchased NM never came with a factory jack or handle (or toolkit), and I can't seem to find any. I would be interested to see what other alternatives people have adopted as I feel uncomfortable driving around with out a jack.

I got my Pajero about 6 months ago and it didn't come with a jack but it did have a full tool kit and the handle for the jack. I keep a bottle jack in the car its fine for the front wheels but if I get a flat on the rear axle I'm screwed. The jacking point for the rear tyres is the axle and the jack I have doesn't have a groove in it (like the standard Mitsubishi jack).

Any suggestions?

[linc]

I work for a mining company and all our vehicles have trolley jacks, don't buy a cheap one and they will get to the right height (unless your a haulpak) It still amazes me though, you spend shit loads of coin on a new vehicle/4wd and what do you get...crap tools and a crap jack

Is that a recent switch over from hilifts?
I used to work out bush for a mining contractor and we ALWAYS used roo jacks, and the same company still uses them (I checked yesterday). Wondering if the actual mine sites, or specific companies, have switched away from them due to HSE issues, or if your company simply has always used trolleys for different reasons.

[rebelone607]

A couple of months ago I had the opposite problem in that I couldn't get the genuine Mits bottle jack under the rear jacking point (SWB NS), as the jack was too high when the tyre was completely deflated. Luckily I was on a good firm dirt patch so I got the shovel out and made enough room under it to get the jack in place. I didn't really have a problem getting the jack up high enough to get the old tyre off or the new one on, although I am looking for something better to work the jack than the supplied tyre lever. Come to think of it, I'm looking for a better way of undoing the wheel nuts as it took quite a bit of effort (i.e. Me jumping on the lever a few times) with the supplied tyre lever.

Bye Jeff.

Hi Jeff. If you are looking for a better way of undoing the wheel nuts then try one of those 12 volt rattle guns that you can get from places such as Repco. I have had one for about 5 years now and use it everytime I need to remove a wheel. Main reason I originally bought it was that the missus would easily be able to undo the wheel nuts if something happened to me and I could not do it - might not be an issue in urban areas but could be life or death stuff in the middle of the Simson. Also in hot weather virtually no manual exertion required - hey I can't help it, I have been a rescue officer for 29 years and have learnt to expect the unexpected and any situation you may imagine is not within the realms of possability, isn't that the reason we buy winches and all that other recovery gear that most of us will rarely ever use? but bet you we have all had to change a tyre or two.
Regards Merv

[Rayw1]

I work for a mining company and all our vehicles have trolley jacks, don't buy a cheap one and they will get to the right height (unless your a haulpak) It still amazes me though, you spend shit loads of coin on a new vehicle/4wd and what do you get...crap tools and a crap jack

When I bought my NP I had an independant vehicle inspection and the guy told me straight up to throw the bottle jack away and buy a Super Cheap 1.4tonne trolley jack - raises to 343mm. Around $40 if I recall. He uses them and does vehicle inspections all day all over Brisbane. I've tried it out twice at home and it works fine.

Fortunately I don't need the rear seat and the storage well is a great tool box for jack and some hardwood blocks (stair tread offcuts) and a cross brace that fits both the Pajero and the caravan.

Ray.

[Leethal]

Jacking up the rear wheels....

Mmmm, just read this and I've only ever had to jack up the front wheel and didn't have a problem.

Might have to go out and try one of the back wheels to see if I can get it off the ground with the bottle jack that came with the car (NM Paj.). Didn't realise there was an issue...