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Default Expressions of Interest in a wheel bag kit?

As per my thread here I can make frames that will space the rear cover out by 170mm, but a solution for cosmetic covers hasn't been forthcoming.

Recent experience obtained manufacturing the Paddle Kits has also led me to conclude I was naively optimistic with pricing of the kits - manufacturing in small batches, the frame set alone is likely to be closer to $150 than $100.

I have no idea how much a decent set of covers would cost, but if I can sell a batch of frames without covers I'm happy to re-invest any profit back into exploring more options for covers - but I can't offer any guarantees.

Who would buy a 170mm frame without covers? I'm not asking anybody to pre-pay - just some genuine expressions of interest, so I can determine if I should make a batch of frames, and how many.

Or are the existing kits destined to be limited edition collectors items?
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On a recent trip across the Simpson with our host club I received a few enquiries about this product, so I'm looking at producing a batch of 10.

To refresh peoples' memories, the existing Limited Edition models (125mm frames) look something like:


My plan is to produce 10 sets of 170mm frames and sell them with a wheel bag and covers, for $200 + freight.

At this stage, I have no idea how I will produce the covers, but will spend some money researching solutions - worst case, I'll wear out my 3D printer to deliver orders.

So, if this is to be the deal, is there any interest?
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Project: NJ SWB. 285/75R16 ST Maxx, 2" OME suspension, 2" body lift, ARB 110, 120l tank, bullbar, scratches, no major dents. Fully engineered in SA. NW DiD & auto in place - a long way to go....

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On a recent trip across the Simpson with our host club I received a few enquiries about this product, so I'm looking at producing a batch of 10.



To refresh peoples' memories, the existing Limited Edition models (125mm frames) look something like:





My plan is to produce 10 sets of 170mm frames and sell them with a wheel bag and covers, for $200 + freight.



At this stage, I have no idea how I will produce the covers, but will spend some money researching solutions - worst case, I'll wear out my 3D printer to deliver orders.



So, if this is to be the deal, is there any interest?

Thanks for sharing yet another project!

Put me down as interested!


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I'm also interested
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hey scott would be interested if it will fit a nx if not would be happy to let you take some measurements from mine thanks rob
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Hi Rob, thanks for the offer, and apologies to those who have been waiting - I've been slack.

The underlying metalwork for a 170mm frame has been designed, but I haven't started the search for a covers solution - the profile of the cover is quite complicated, the last one was a lot of trial & error to get it to a point that came close, and I think a manufacturing solution will need to copy the profiles directly rather than measure and attempt to reproduce.

I'll bump this up my priority list.
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Project: NJ SWB. 285/75R16 ST Maxx, 2" OME suspension, 2" body lift, ARB 110, 120l tank, bullbar, scratches, no major dents. Fully engineered in SA. NW DiD & auto in place - a long way to go....

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Whilst $200 is beyond my budget to mount a rubbish bag I'm interested in following your process. Curiosity killed the cat.

What problems have arisen from your current design and did you manage to find a manufacturer for the covers?
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Hi zoiks,

The underlying metalwork was relatively straight-forward. Most metalwork shops told me part of my original design wasn't manufacturable, but one company managed to do it as designed, at a competitive price.

I obtained pricing for a much larger production batch of the metalwork, and the price dropped a couple of dollars. Taking a leap of faith to manufacture this product in large volumes doesn't add up.

The biggest issue with the metalwork (other than the feature that most shops say isn't manufacturable) is matching the thread pitch of the factory bolts (on the catch side). My drawings specify diameter and pitch for the nuts to be welded on, but every manufacturer that has made metalwork, every time, has welded on "normal" metric coarse pitch nuts - not the pitch specified on the drawings. I think I need to highlight on the drawing that it isn't normal metric coarse. The hinge side is comparatively straight-forward.

Attempting to match the cover profile through measurement has proved to be a frustrating and time consuming process - I need to find somebody who can scan the factory covers to create an electronic base for creating the fill pieces going forward. I think I know the solution, but I need to pay for some tooling, and I currently have another project that is monopolising my cash flow - banks!

I could continue to print covers, but each cover set takes days to print, there is a ridiculous failure rate, and they need to be painted for UV resistance. Material, machine time (at my cost, much cheaper than commercial rates) and labour costs kill this option. This is for the NS - NW cover profile - NX profiles are larger, and will cost more to print.

Metalwork and covers are the largest part of the kit. Even if the new idea for covers works out I'll still need mounting brackets, and the kit needs to be shipped with nuts & bolts and instructions. Then there's packing and shipping, customer support, warranty claims - which all takes time & money, and I don't have the volumes to achieve the economies of scale of some of the big players in the market.

As much as we might love our Pajeros, we are a small minority. There aren't that many Pajero enthusiasts out there who are interested in purchasing this product, at any price.
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Project: NJ SWB. 285/75R16 ST Maxx, 2" OME suspension, 2" body lift, ARB 110, 120l tank, bullbar, scratches, no major dents. Fully engineered in SA. NW DiD & auto in place - a long way to go....

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bugger nj so it wont be moving forward atm would have like one for my next trip are well
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