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I'm genuinely curious to understand how many forum members have / will stop driving their vehicles until the matter is resolved. I, for one, stopped driving my Pajero as soon as the ACCC notice was published. How many others have done the same, I wonder?
If I want to get to work and pay my rent etc --- I need my paj - I do normally have a second car bu that is up for some unscheduled maintenance so yes I am driving it -- albeit with no airbags as above.

of course I could go buy a cheap runaround toyota or mazda or suziki or whatever but it seems most of those are being recalled now as well
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I wonder if its going to become a maintenance thing --- your air bags are over x years old it has to be replaced or the rego will be stopped

There used to be info in user manuals for some cars/4wd's that said something along the lines of - Once your car gets to 10 years old it is recommended that your airbags be replaced as they may not operate correctly after this age - or something to that effect anyways.
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Pull the AirBag or SRS fuse, undo the 4-6 screws holding the dash pod, remove the offending led for SRS error... done. Now wait for official confirmation of the issue, not sure how legal this is but you can always overload the fuse outside of the vehicle and put it back as blown.
PS - I have a 2000 NL Escape not wide body.
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I upgraded to a magna wheel and airbag not long ago, bloody hell, will have to refit the old junk, drive in, have it changed, come home, pull it off, and refit the magna one again.
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I upgraded to a magna wheel and airbag not long ago, bloody hell, will have to refit the old junk, drive in, have it changed, come home, pull it off, and refit the magna one again.
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That is only IF Mitsubishi decides to have the replacement bags manufactured. Legaly they don't have too ------Just offer a buy back. Time will tell!

This is from the ACCC website.

What are manufacturers doing to address the issue?
Affected manufacturers are offering to buyback vehicles or are providing alternative transportation for those owners who choose to wait for parts to be manufactured. Not all affected manufacturers intend to manufacture replacements parts.


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I suppose the message hasn't yet filtered down to the front line / dealerships. Other manufacturers seem to be taking this more seriously than MM. Should I be surprised?

I'm genuinely curious to understand how many forum members have / will stop driving their vehicles until the matter is resolved. I, for one, stopped driving my Pajero as soon as the ACCC notice was published. How many others have done the same, I wonder?
Thought I'd chime in, hi all. Sources claim that it's pretty simple to disconnect the airbag wiring at the base of the steering column after removing the lower shroud and column cover. Then, open the glovebox and move the little pieces on each side that stop it from opening all the way, giving access to the wiring for the passengers airbag. Apparently, it's just a matter of removing the SRS warning light from under the dash cluster while the shroud is off. Voila.

Still driving until Mitsubishi work out what they're going to do about the situation.
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That is only IF Mitsubishi decides to have the replacement bags manufactured. Legaly they don't have too ------Just offer a buy back. Time will tell!

This is from the ACCC website.

What are manufacturers doing to address the issue?
Affected manufacturers are offering to buyback vehicles or are providing alternative transportation for those owners who choose to wait for parts to be manufactured. Not all affected manufacturers intend to manufacture replacements parts.


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Of course.
I've just spent 6 months solid on this car doing upgrades, 3.8L conversion including clutch, snorkel, lift, tyres, interior, don't get me started!
If there's a buyback scheme I'm going to be PISSED. I don't want money for it. Just want to drive it. Guess I'll walk down that path if/when the time comes.
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I don't know if this would be accepted by the ACCC---------- and I don't have a lazy $1500 to find out.



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Default SRS airbag / bullbar conundrum

I know I have put up a lot about the SRS airbag drama but it really bugs me and sometimes I need to vent!
Here is another thought. My 1998 GLS has a Bocar aluminium bull bar fitted from new (and now even has a winch fitted). These bars were manufactured well before SRS airbags were considered for the Pajero's and I am sure these bars were not made to any "SRS airbag compatibility" rule. They were certainly available for the earlier models.
Now I am not sure but I believe the front sensors for the NL Pajero are inertia triggered and are timed for the front end crumple to take place. Now with a bullbar fitted the crumple zone doesn't work the same so the timing is different. The airbag would deploy at the wrong time, much sooner. (remember we are talking microseconds)
So now they are telling me that my airbag has a problem. Well guess what, I think my car had an SRS airbag problem from the day in 1998 when it left the selling dealer who fitted the bullbar.
I know this is an entirely different situation but it still has the possibility of causing "death or injury" which is the same reasoning behind the SRS airbag recall.
Maybe a bullbar recall needs to be considered?
Just joking. PLEASE just let me pull the fuse and get on with the rest of my life...however long that may be.
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2008 Mercedes W211 e280 CDI sport
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I suppose the message hasn't yet filtered down to the front line / dealerships. Other manufacturers seem to be taking this more seriously than MM. Should I be surprised?

I'm genuinely curious to understand how many forum members have / will stop driving their vehicles until the matter is resolved. I, for one, stopped driving my Pajero as soon as the ACCC notice was published. How many others have done the same, I wonder?
I stopped driving the NL as soon as I saw the ACCC notice. I used it every day to drive to the train station and park in one of the unpaved car parking areas and as a weekend general load carrier. Very occasionally it did some offroad work. My VIN is on the published list and now I'm reluctant to drive it, even though I'm sure the odds of injury due to airbag miss-deployment are low.

My wife uses my NT now to transport the toddler so I'm driving her Mazda 3 - which I do love anyway!

But I still miss the NL. Ironic that I looked for a GLS with dual airbags thinking it would improve the safety, but I did wonder after the NT airbag recall if the NL airbags were going to be any good after 20+ years. I got the same email response as others from MMAL, I sent a followup email yesterday requesting an update.
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