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Hi,
I have a NT Diesel ARB bar with winch,dual batteries and Bushkins IC and sump guard.
Rear was basically empty when measured, less then half tank of fuel.
The suspension was on the car when I bought it has 270K on the clock Bilstein shocks
The labels were still on the springs
Front Springs are Lovells CFR-90HD
Ride height
L: 510mm
R: 515mm
Rear Springs are Lovells CRR-91HD
Ride height
L: 540mm
R: 545mm
I am not unhappy with how the car drives.
On last outback trip all was good on the high speed gravel etc.
However, the ride height seems low from some posts on here
I was wondering if the springs might have sagged.
Any advise would be great
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factory ride heights are 503mm front and 533mm rear so you have a small lift. Depending on the weights you carry my guess is when you are fully loaded the current suspension drops from 510/515mm front and 540/545mm rear down to around the 500mm front and 500/510mm rear.
Is this correct?
This is higher much than factory suspension under the same loads.
With another suspension setup you can get around the 530mm front and 540mm rear when at GVM but this means 545mm front and 575mm rear when unladen. To get this results means knowing your exact axle loads laden and unladen and then selecting the coils for the weights and ride heights. This is particularly difficult because of the independent suspension front and rear, it is also and expensive exericise and although the ride height should be close to the targets, the ride comfort and handling may not meet your expectations.

What do you like about your current setup?
What do you not like about your current setup?

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Hi OJ,
Thanks for your reply.
I have not measured loaded.
There is however little change to front
The rear goes to just above level,rear,, only from some photos, not measured.
We had extra spare wheel and a back up jerry can inside + 30L water and third battery
Fairly light camping gear and basic recovery kit.
Positive
The vehicle handles well when loaded
I probably drive a bit faster then most on the gravel.
I also prefer a firmer ride and more controlled suspension movement,,,
Got used to it in a rally car year ago
Negative
Extra clearance is always nice to have. It feels a bit low at the front.

I travel as light as I can,,, as we all do.
I guess that I will have to go to the weigh bridge at some point.
Also will try to work out my camping gear weight.

The car in not a daily driver so empty "comfort" is not on the shopping list

Cheers, Johan
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Hi Johan,

Do you know how many kms on the Bilstein's?
If over 100,000 to 120,000kms they will be getting tired.
Can you notice any shocker or strut fade?
Do the struts and shocker still control repetitive sequential deep compressions or do they start to lose rebound control?

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Hi
The fronts are still OK... rebound still under control
The rears are new ... one leaking after last trip, still working
I have a contact and got replacement at super low price
I quite like them ... great control for what I have done so far.
No shocks are perfect for all conditions
They care a bit too stiff for the really bad corrugations but over all I am happy

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i have just checked my ride heights i have the same set up same part no coils and bilstein shocks .
front is 540mm
rear is 570mm
these have done approximately 200,000klms mostly towing 3t caravan.i would suggest checking the rubber spring seats top and bottom with that sort of mileage they would be worn .these are expensive genuine but are available from http://www.polytuff.com.au. the other issue you may have on the front is the bilstein struts have two different spring seat heights that you can change by moving the circlip on the shock body.yours may be on the low setting i used this setting till i added a winch and then changed to the upper seat..
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Hi PT3021

Thanks for your information.
I have had a look at the struts and can't see any way to tell which groove the clip is in.
I wonder if anyone could post a measurement from the spring base down to give me an idea.
BIG job to pull apart only to find it is already in the top groove.

Cheers, Johan
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