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Where the rubber hits the road. Discussion about drive train; (locking) diffs; wheels; hubs; suspension and, of course, tyres

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Old 21-02-16
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Default Winter tyres??

Has anyone got any experience with winter tyres?

Living in the Snowy mountains we do most of our four wheel driving on snow and ice covered roads. I am considering putting some winter rubber on the NT for upcoming winter.

If you have used or are using winter tyres;
- how did/are they perform/ing?
- which tyres have you used?
- did you swap back after winter?

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Has anyone got any experience with winter tyres?

Living in the Snowy mountains we do most of our four wheel driving on snow and ice covered roads. I am considering putting some winter rubber on the NT for upcoming winter.

If you have used or are using winter tyres;
- how did/are they perform/ing?
- which tyres have you used?
- did you swap back after winter?

Cheers.

Why? Where you from? Well, I do change my tyres to winter tyres, since it's actually better even if there are these All Season Tyre brands. Traction is better with winter tyres like Bridgestone Blizzak, like this - https://www.tyroola.com.au/bridgesto...4a0cb4227.html . You can also try Goodyear. When the winter is over, I usually change my tyres, but sometimes I don't, especially when I'm considering my budget..hahaha
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My experience with winter tyres dates back too far to remember. At least 45 years... They were Dunlop SP44 - a winter tread radial. Grip in snow was fantastic. It was on a Triumph 2000, and it regularly went thru well over 1 ft of snow without any trouble. I even towed a couple of cars out of Guthega when they got snowed in. Awesome in the snow, diabolical once out of it. Horrible oversteer, noisy. Come summer, I swapped them back for regular radials. When I sold my Triumph, I had 3 people chasing me for my winter treads.

Not much help to you now. My comment is that unless you fitted studded tyres, you wouldn't get much improvement over a good set of AT or MS 4WD tyres. In any event, the National Sparks & Wildfire Service probably wouldn't let you use studded tyres...
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You need tyres that studs can be screwed into. Great grip on ice and snow.
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Blizzaks are awesome on snow and ice covered roads, if that's what you're going for. But I'd put a decent set of offroad tyres up against them in snow and slush any time, I'd only prefer the blizzaks if I was going to see a lot of ice. And once you leave the road the blizzaks aren't going to do you a lot of good.
So if you're staying on the road, go for a snow tyre, but if you're planning to leave the pavement at all I think any halfway decent offroad tyre with an aggressive tread will serve you better.

Experience - 10 years commuting app 100k each way to work in Wisconsin, USA.
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Blizzaks are awesome on snow and ice covered roads, if that's what you're going for. But I'd put a decent set of offroad tyres up against them in snow and slush any time, I'd only prefer the blizzaks if I was going to see a lot of ice. And once you leave the road the blizzaks aren't going to do you a lot of good.
So if you're staying on the road, go for a snow tyre, but if you're planning to leave the pavement at all I think any halfway decent offroad tyre with an aggressive tread will serve you better.

Experience - 10 years commuting app 100k each way to work in Wisconsin, USA.
We have been living and working above the snow line for 14 years (with no end in sight) and have been running Cooper AT3 or similar for this time. However the wife experienced the grip limit of the Coopers last winter and was looking for other options. Our winter driving is limited to sealed roads.
How did you find the snow tyres on normal (no snow) bitumen?

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I never used snow tyres myself, I always had all wheel drive vehicles with good all season tyres. But I've driven with snow tyres on. Those who use snow tyres always swap them out in Summer because they wear too fast on dry pavement, they're a very soft compound. Because of that, they're also a little bit squishy on cornering I'm told.
For road tyres I've found directional treads to be better on snow and ice. When I had my audi A8 I used these a couple of times - http://www.1010tires.com/Tires/Revie...ral/Altimax+HP They weren't the best I've had, but they did ok and the Audi's traction systems and general bulldozeriness made up for it. The best all seasons I've ever had were on my first grand cherokee - http://www.1010tires.com/Tires/Revie...era+TripleTred Those things were amazing on any surface, but super expensive. I got talked into putting some kumho road ventures on my last grand cherokee, can't find a pic of the tread my ones had, but they were more of an all season than an off road tyre and they weren't great. In the end I was happiest with general grabber AT2s. On anything but slick ice they're not going to break a sweat, and they're not bad on ice, I think the only thing better is a dedicated snow tyre, or studs. AT2s are studdable, if you want to go that route.
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I lived in Germany and Austria for a couple of winters and had a set of Pirelli winter tyres on a small rear wheel drive car. They went on at the first snow fall for the season, and came off on the first sunny day as the wear rate above 7-10 deg C was horrific. They made a significant difference on snowy/icy roads, but were absolute rubbish in mud as they generally have a fairly tight tread pattern and would not self clean. I didn't spend enough time in the high alpine areas to get studs fitted, but had a chance to drive a few vehicles with studded tyres which had crazy good grip on ice...

In Australia, I think you may be better off looking at decent A/T tyre to provide more versatility in the mixed snow conditions encountered in KNP. I have been quite happy with Bridgestone 697s in ice & snow conditions, but it has been in fairly mild conditions (not had to fit snow chains). Definitely worth talking to local tyre specialists to see what they sell the most of, and what feedback they get from happy/unhappy customers.

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