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Old 11-06-13
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Hi all
I'm newish to Pajero ownership and this forum. Reading here has been a great help in deciding to buy the Paj.
Mine's a 2010 NT Rx.
Problem I'm having is getting going after stopping on sand. Seems to me 4wd isn't engaging properly and/or the traction control decides there slip on all 4 corners and won't give drive to any of them.
Serching the forum suggests the solenoids may stick if not engaged often. Not sure what use the previous owner made of 4wd.
I'm defintely in 4H getting onto the beach but get no drive to any wheel after stopping. Selecting 4L, etc results in indicator lights flashing - not going solid. After faffing with the selector for a while, it seems something has clicked and I have drive.
Since the NT has a good sand reputation I assume this isn't normal or (entirely) a result of poor driving tecnique. I have Torque on my phone and it doesn't show up any fault codes.
As the vehicle is still in warranty, I'll take it to the dealer - but I'd like the thoughts of knowledgable forum members so I have have an idea if they're just bull****ing me.
cheers
Peter
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Have you turned off the ASC?
That will give you problems in sand if you dont.
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Thanks Markpeh
First time I didn't until I stopped. Had the problem anyway after turning it off.
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The Pajero is my first 4WD. It took me a while to get accustomed to it. When it was new I experienced a similar problem but after engaging 4H and 4HLc on the fly a few times the problem went away.

Now when I change from 2H to 4H I wait till the lights go solid before engaging the 4HLc. If I'm stationary sometimes I need to move in and out of Drive to rock the car a bit. Same when I engage 4HLc. I only enage 4LLc if 4HLC is engaged properly. I of course stop and select neutral before selecting 4LLc. Sometimes it takes a while to enage and again I need to rock the car a bit by momentarily moving in and out of drive.

What I did find when I first bought the car was if I moved straight from 2H or 4H to 4LLC without ensuring that 4HLc had been engaged the PJ would never engage 4LLc.

as per the previous post turning off the ASC will help in the sand.

Hope this helps
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Thanks DaveH
I think some experimentation is in order. Your explanation about the 4llc sounds right.
This is my first auto 4wd and all the electronic management stuff will take a bit of getting used to. Did you experience the no drive at all issue - engine revs but nothing happens at the wheels?
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I don't know if I ever had no drive at all, as I never tried to drive off till the ights went solid. If experimenting be careful of transmission lock up especially when disengaging 4LLc.
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You're scaring me now DaveH. Maybe I should have kept the manual Navara!
Actually I suspect following your process will solve my problem.
cheers & for your help.
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Remember you can change from 2H to 4H and then to 4HLc at speeds up to 100kph. It works really well. You only need to be stationary to engange 4LLc which I understand is common to most 4WDs
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an auto is alot better than a manual when starting off in soft sand, as long as your right foot aint too heavy. normal 4 x 4 drive and a slow take will get you out of the soft.
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You have dropped the tyre pressures?
Turning off the ASC should solve all of your issues. If of course your tyre pressures are low enough for the conditions.
The Pajero is a weapon in the sand, this is the sort of terrain where it really shows its true colours.
Cheers, Dan.
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