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  • Tnk05l
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 28
    • Narrabri

    Triton and Pajero

    Hey guys I just got given a triton mj turbo Deisel 4d56 and It has no gearbox

    Just wondering
    1... Does the Pajero petrol gearbox bolt to this motor or ??

    2... And I know the engines fit but what else does suspension and diff ,, driveline Etc

    Any help greatly appreciated guys
  • Tnk05l
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 28
    • Narrabri

    #2
    Anyone please

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    • bakerboy
      "valued 3000+ member"
      • May 2008
      • 3423
      • Perth

      #3
      Not sure mate, but you could start by checking gearbox codes with the tech thread to see if they match, then go to a wreckers and compare bellhousings and output shafts etc?

      If I agreed with you, then we would both be wrong

      '89 NG Paj, 3L V6, now running 2" suspension lift, 33" Micky T Baja Claws's, Front LOKKA & 12,000lb winch

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      • gen1
        Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 212
        • Melbourne

        #4
        from what I've learnt on my quest for a pajero gearbox, the triton and pajero gearboxes are not interchangeable despite having the same engines.
        2016 NX GLX. ARB bullbar, Safari snorkel, dual batteries, diesel prefilter, flashlube catch can, FrontRunner rack with foxwing awning and custom under awning lights, towbar, Drifta Drawers, Terrain Tamer suspension

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        • kingdavey
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 63
          • Warrnambool

          #5
          Though I haven't done it, but have replaced clutches on both vehicles, I'm thinking they might interchange without too much effort. In fact the 4D56 has the same bellhousing pattern as the 2.6 petrol, so that might be an option as well?

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          • Tnk05l
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 28
            • Narrabri

            #6
            Cheers also I'm pretty sure the engines etc convert over hey

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            • Tnk05l
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 28
              • Narrabri

              #7
              Guys ?

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              • gen1
                Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 212
                • Melbourne

                #8
                the diesel and 4 cylinder engines have the same bolt pattern on the pajero at least. On the first generation Paj the diesel and 4cyl petrol engines have the same gearbox. But, I was advised time and time again that a pajero gearbox will not fit into a triton. Not sure why to be honest. I had asked often as I could get a triton gearbox without a problem at the time but my mechanic who works on these cars a lot, and the wrecker I was trying to find a gearbox through insisted there was enough differences in the gearbox casing to ensure they wouldn't fit. I think from memory one of the differences was some tritons had a cable clutch whereas all Pajeros were hydraulic with the slave cylinder mounted on the opposite side.
                2016 NX GLX. ARB bullbar, Safari snorkel, dual batteries, diesel prefilter, flashlube catch can, FrontRunner rack with foxwing awning and custom under awning lights, towbar, Drifta Drawers, Terrain Tamer suspension

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                • Tnk05l
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 28
                  • Narrabri

                  #9
                  Ok so the idea is pull engine etc out of mj triton and put in nc Pajero petrol using petrol Pajero gearbox ! Your saying that should work but if I was to try and fit Pajero box to triton no go ?

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                  • Bogger
                    Unregistered as asked
                    • May 2011
                    • 1898

                    #10
                    Not sure on the triton bit but a 4d56 gearbox and a 6G72 gearbox have different input shafts. I know some one who fitted a petrol box to diesel but he had to make up his own bell housing

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                    • gen1
                      Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 212
                      • Melbourne

                      #11
                      Yeah I think that sounds about right. A triton engine should go into a pajero ok and should bolt up to the pajero gearbox. Just not the other way around I've been told!
                      2016 NX GLX. ARB bullbar, Safari snorkel, dual batteries, diesel prefilter, flashlube catch can, FrontRunner rack with foxwing awning and custom under awning lights, towbar, Drifta Drawers, Terrain Tamer suspension

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                      • Sofoklaki
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 11
                        • Brisbane

                        #12
                        Hi there fellas , in answer to your questions
                        1 yes a Pajero box and transfer does fit into a triton, however, because the triton gearbox doesn't have a neutral between hi and low when you put it into low the upper rubber gromit that goes half way up the stick with the ribs fights the low range stick and it always pops out. If you take the upper rubber gromit (there's 2) and leave the lower flat one in then no problemo, it works like a champion. I have put the later mj triton diff which is huge by comparison to the earlier and I tail shaft fits no problem. Just look for the diff codes which describes the ratio.

                        2 the early gear box and transfer from a 4d56 and a 4g54 are identical.
                        The spline from the import models, you see them around, are different someone told me so watch that, but in the Australian models the same.
                        The v6 does not go also the 4 cyl models have hydraulic clutch where as the v6 has cable
                        I think the code from under the bonnet is 415 which describes the gearbox and transfer.
                        Don't quote me on that 415 number I'm pretty sure it's right but not 100% without going out and looking. I know what ever the numbers are they are the same because I just wrecked an 88 Pajero 4g54 petrol and the gearbox code is the same as in my turbo Pajero and my diesel triton that I'm about to do a build on. If you want pics of the transfer and gearbox let me know.

                        People take the piss out of mitsies but most things in the drive lines of early Pajero and triton are pretty well interchangeable Mitsubishi by comparison is a smaller factory and they used a lot of the same gear in their 4wds.
                        Washer bottles, radiators, just watch the difference of the cores in the diesel models, a turbo radiator is thicker than a std diesel radiator I've put a turbo pajero radiator on my triton. It went straight in. Diffs, torsion bars I would imagine would bolt straight in, the Pajero is a leaf rear 4wd. It all fits the triton


                        Right now your glad you don't own a Nissan. They vary so much that's it's impossible to find what you want at a wrecker.
                        Last edited by Sofoklaki; 06-05-13, 07:19 AM. Reason: Add more info
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                        • Tnk05l
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 28
                          • Narrabri

                          #13
                          Hi mate thanks yea ! So your talk tells me a lot I want to hear haha ! So just to clarify I've got an 1986 Pajero 4g54 manual ...and a 4d56 mj triton ! I want to put the triton wiring and 4d56 engine into my psjerowith my 1986 Pajero manual gearbox that's possible yes and thanks if can answer that !also wiring problems or the wiring from petrol to Deisel anything hard I need to note cheers

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                          • Tnk05l
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 28
                            • Narrabri

                            #14
                            Ok everyone this is final the question is will a mj triton 4d56 t bolt into my 2.6 petrol nc 1986 pajero using pajero petrol gearbox ? Please anyone the mj is 1994 the pajero is 1986 both are hydraulic clutch please a few replies to help decide If I get the triton or not instead of wasting money thanks

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                            • bakerboy
                              "valued 3000+ member"
                              • May 2008
                              • 3423
                              • Perth

                              #15
                              Pretty certain the paj will run the KM145 gearbox and the triton is possibly the V5M21, but you should look at the transaxle plate on the radiator suport or firewall to check
                              If I agreed with you, then we would both be wrong

                              '89 NG Paj, 3L V6, now running 2" suspension lift, 33" Micky T Baja Claws's, Front LOKKA & 12,000lb winch

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