Smartbar bullbar fitted - Headlight washers

[Morville]

We had the Smartbar fitted to our NW Platinum today. It looks a very neat and professional job. One thing I didn't know is that the Platinum has headlight washers. The fitter rang me to tell me about the washers saying the vehicle is technically unroadworthy without them. I told him to go ahead anyway.
I thought it was only the Exceeds with headlight washers.
It sounds like all Platinums will be in the same boat with a bullbar unless they can overcome the washer issue.
Peter

[Bundyk]

Nice one Peter. Did you get it sey up for a winch?

[JimmyMc1980]

that is correct with the washers, but you only legaly require them if you have hid lights. so it should not make it unroadworthy.

[Morville]

Nice one Peter. Did you get it sey up for a winch?

No, I didn't get a winch compatible bar

that is correct with the washers, but you only legaly require them if you have hid lights. so it should not make it unroadworthy.

Thanks for the info.

Someone asked recently for some pics, will do it soon.
Peter

[Smokeydk]

When I had my SmartBar fitted to my NP......they had to remove and replace the windscreen washer bottle with a smaller one......it was a hard job finding a new spot for it...I'm sure the later models would be worse



Dave

[JanP]

Hi Dave

I also recently fitted a Smartbar to my NP Exceed.
I assume they supplied you with a washer bottle.
I used a short piece of steel bar, bent it at a right angle and bolted it to a convenient hole next to the radiator in front of the air cleaner. I then bolted the washer bottle holder to that.
It meant that I could push the washer tube on the washer bottle and also use the power lead without any extensions.
I hope this is of some help.
Jan.

[Dion]

My understanding was that washers are only needed legally if there are glass lenses. The Pajero does not have glass lenses.

[Traveller43]

My understanding was that washers are only needed legally if there are glass lenses. The Pajero does not have glass lenses.

The washers are necessary only if you have HID headlights. The light from HIDs is susceptible to diffusing when the headlight lens cover gets dirty. If you were to have an accident at night and the insurance company found that the washers were removed then they or the road authorities could make life difficult.

I had a Smartbar installed on my NT and was able to have the washers extended by flexible hose and screwed to the Smartbar so they still work.

It was easy to do and looks very neat.

[Dion]

I went back and had a proper read. Note: My Pajero doesn't have HID lights.

Australian Design Rule 13/00 :

6.2.9: Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s)
producing the principal dipped beam and having a total objective
luminous flux which exceeds 2,000 lumen shall only be installed in
conjunction with the installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No. 45. 9/

Note 9 says:

9/

Contracting Parties to the respective Regulations can still prohibit the use of mechanical cleaning
systems when headlamps with plastic lenses, marked "PL", are installed.

I think I misread the statement about cleaning. Mechanical cleaning could be taken to mean the old style wipers, rather than any type of cleaning. So that may be a misinterpretation by me.

However, the fact remains that it only applies for beam > 2000 lumens. I wonder how bright the HID system in the Pajero actually is? There are quite a few cars out there with HID/Xenon lights and no washers.

Note that levelling is still required regardless.

[Macster]

Pictures!!!! Please.

[markpeh]

If what I have been driving thru is anything to go by, headlight washers will be of little use anyway...

[twoar]

Auto levelling is a requirement of the ADR's . Would be sure that the standard pajero hids would be over 2000 lumens , most of the ones online from light2light are around the 3000- 7000 lumens. With 35-70w lamps.

If you can downgrade to meet the standards go for a higher colour temp lamp. At least 6000k plus. Least then it will appear brighter.

[Smokeydk]

Yes Jan.......a bottle was supplied........they put the bottle on the back of firewall right hand side where a duel battery would go....I origionally told them not to.....like you they finally made up a bracket to slide the bottle on to and fitted it left of the radiator above the headlight..........when I got home......there was water running everywhere........the bracket they made....had a sharp edge when it was pushed over the moulded plastic of the bottle......it sliced into it..........I had to get a new bottle and file the bracket smooth


Dave

[Dion]

Auto levelling is a requirement of the ADR's . Would be sure that the standard pajero hids would be over 2000 lumens , most of the ones online from light2light are around the 3000- 7000 lumens. With 35-70w lamps.

If you can downgrade to meet the standards go for a higher colour temp lamp. At least 6000k plus. Least then it will appear brighter.

We're talking low beam lights, not high beam, remember.

2000 lumens is quite a bit of light.

[twoar]

We're talking low beam lights, not high beam, remember.

2000 lumens is quite a bit of light.

2000 lumens is a lot of light just shy of a cheap 1x25w Fluoro t5 lamp

But again projecting 2000 lumens to the ground 30 metres in front of you is a lot different.

To clarify was directed to those who have hids and have installed a front bar, and the lens washers are removed and not re-installed. You can look at downgrading your hids to suit the ADRs less than 2000 lumens.