Seat modification report

[reciprovac]

Yesterday I posted that my 2014 Challenger was booked in for a seat modification to improve the park benches that were original .
The results have been fantastic.
The original foam was cut down and two layers of alternative product fitted.
The back of the seat was cut away and a softer foam fitted here to give relief to lower spine pressure.
There is no evidence that this work has been done except for a slightly more puffy look to the seats.
This has been the best $360 I have spent on the vehicle (two seats done).
As I believe this has been one of the more constant complaints on this forum I feel justified in passing on the details of the person who carried out this work.
The company is Inside cars ,factory 6 Woodbine crt ,Wantirna or www.inside cars.com.au, phone 03 9800 0003.
Adam says he can do seats that are transported to him for distant customers.
My vehicle now has seats that are much softer to sit on and as a result provide comfort not experienced since purchasing the vehicle.
Regards

[Tone13]

That's great news and a reasonable price for two seats.

Are yours cloth or leather seats?

[spot01]

Sounds like you are onto a good thing - well done.

The ML Triton seats were worse than yours, so it may transform those cars also.

Perhaps you should offer to show the MMAL rep how much better it is now and they may "consider" for future models - I don't think they do much, if any, local testing or product clinics these days. I was told MMC electronically "mapped" rough tracks in SA so they could replicate in Japan and avoid the need to bring test cars to Oz - it may work for the suspension, but they forgot about the dust sealing!

In the modern world, you shouldn't have to do your own improvements to seating - too much assuming & penny pinching, I think.

[fester]

In the modern world, you shouldn't have to do your own improvements to seating - too much assuming & penny pinching, I think.

Nor should we have to drive around the auto box but yet we still do. For the people who still think the Challenger is a good package for the price they possibly got the seats they paid for.

[robdavo]

Reciprovac. They are just around the corner from me, so will pop in at some point and check them out. Couple of questions for you though....
How long did they take to actually modify both the seats?
Assume as you have a PC, then the seats have side airbags. Were they fully aware of the do's and don'ts of disconnecting airbags?
How much assistance did they give you in actually deciding the modifications to the seats (driver/passenger weights, pain zones, comfort level, vehicle usage, expectations etc ?
Did you investigate the addition of air lumbar support or similar products that they may offer?

Sorry for the inquisition, but I assume that others will also be interested in any additional info and insight you can offer, as the seating quality is a subject that has oft been raised.
Rob

[Tone13]

Nor should we have to drive around the auto box but yet we still do. For the people who still think the Challenger is a good package for the price they possibly got the seats they paid for.

Nothing wrong with making small improvements. Very hard to find a car at any price point that's perfect.......

[reciprovac]

Seat modifications

That's great news and a reasonable price for two seats.

Are yours cloth or leather seats?

My seats were cloth.

[reciprovac]

Air bag seats

Reciprovac. They are just around the corner from me, so will pop in at some point and check them out. Couple of questions for you though....
How long did they take to actually modify both the seats?
Assume as you have a PC, then the seats have side airbags. Were they fully aware of the do's and don'ts of disconnecting airbags?
How much assistance did they give you in actually deciding the modifications to the seats (driver/passenger weights, pain zones, comfort level, vehicle usage, expectations etc ?
Did you investigate the addition of air lumbar support or similar products that they may offer?

Sorry for the inquisition, but I assume that others will also be interested in any additional info and insight you can offer, as the seating quality is a subject that has oft been raised.
Rob

It took 4 hrs to do both seats,if you ring Adam he can send you an Email showing the modifications.
Very aware of air bags and even tested connection prior to vehicle hand over.
Did not ask for Lumbar support as that is not my problem but I am sure the option exists.
We discussed my requirements before work commenced.
Work is given a warrantee,so no problems if issues arise.
Regards

[aus_andyk]

Reciprovac

Any chance of some pics of the updated seats?

Not looking to hijack this thread, but are the XLS seats much better than the base model Challenger?

Is there any benefit to obtaining XLS seats from a wreck for the base model?

Since a recent drive to Sydney from Melbourne, I am looking for alternatives, as I have issues with my lower back.

Cheers

[Tone13]

Reciprovac

Any chance of some pics of the updated seats?

Not looking to hijack this thread, but are the XLS seats much better than the base model Challenger?

Is there any benefit to obtaining XLS seats from a wreck for the base model?

Since a recent drive to Sydney from Melbourne, I am looking for alternatives, as I have issues with my lower back.

Cheers

Personally, neither me or my wife have any issues with the xls leather seats and we do a lot of longish trips. A friend got in my car the other day and commented that the seats were quite firm. The xls seats are firmer than most but not to the point that I find them uncomfortable. I do have a bit of a bad back though and would like a little more lumbar support for long drives but I've felt the same thing in pretty much every car I've been in.

[reciprovac]

Seat modifications

I have suffered from Arthritis for many years in my tail bone area,probably as a result of being a fitter and turner for many years.
Most vehicle seats are a problem for me with the last Pajero being the best.
The Challenger felt OK for the test drive, but longer drives my B-- gets very sore.
I priced Recaro at an amazing $3000 each.
As I cannot afford another vehicle improving the existing was the only alternative in order to preserve my warranty and get some comfort.
Cars inside were one of a number of trimmers who said they could soften the seat by removing a layer of hard foam and replacing it with softer materials.
I selected cars inside because they were the closest to home.
When I delivered the vehicle I was asked did I require lower back relief in the seats,I had not heard of this but it was explained that a cut out is made and softer foam inserted where your tail bone would rest.
This was the perfect improvement for my condition and I am very happy with the result.
The seat looks original,I notice a slight increase in bulk,but would defy others to notice,so no point in photos really.
If you are interested ring the guy and ask for an Email showing what is done.
No there were no calculations or other estimates,after all it is just a lump of foam which is cleverly modified to provide a softer seat for those who require it.
Regards

[fester]

Would have to say that I expect the XLS seats are better than the base model as I can't complain heavily about them but on longer drives (3hr) I still get a bit of a sore arse/hip/lower back. I tend to have it tilted back otherwise the seating position is not great. Wife lately after a couple of trips has been complaining a little about the passenger seat as well.

[5TA]

We find the drivers seat to be good (now 40,000 km) but lumbar support poor. Driver and passenger seats now have spring steel seat supports available at camping shows (and I am sure elsewhere) and the difference is amazing. However, we are all different and require different solutions.

[dave60]

I find the XLS leather seats with the electric adjustment to be about the best of any vehicle I have ever owned, even on long distance touring.

I have never found myself having to stick a balled fist into my back to relieve the pain as I have with other cars.

When I first test drove the Challenger it was a base model with standard seats and both the missus and I thought they were very average.

[selsij]

Why isn't that MMA don't realise that the seats that come standard in all models of the Challenger are NOT to the correct set up for Australians?
They mat be alright for the shorter, lighter weight Asian frame but NOT for the Australian one. I've put spacers in my front seats, and whilst they are not perfect, they are much better. I don't feel that I am sliding off any more.
I'd gladly pay a few more dollars at initial purchase for some descent seats.