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  • Paj11
    Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 209
    • Sydney

    Headlight Restoration

    Who has used headlight restoration and how good are they vs professional restoration? I was looking at Rain X which seems to be middle of the road pricing and has good reviews. Mine need a bit of work, there is no yellowing, more haze than anything else, the car was previously owned by caravan owners from WA so it looks like abrasion from sand and dust.
    2011 30th Anniversary NT, TME Tuned, 2 inch Billies/Dobs lift HD rear/MD front. Arb Deluxe Bar, Mitsi Tow bar, LRA Aux tank, Clearview Mirrors, Tekonsha Electric Brake Controller, iDrive, Manta 3 inch Turbo back Exhaust, Provent Catch Can, Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus 265/70/17 all corners plus spare, 9 inch iluminators, 7 inch Stedi reverse flood light, Rhino Rack, Kings Side Awning.
  • Tom52
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 163
    • Melbourne

    #2
    Try using some toothpaste on a rag (on a small area first) - it worked for my partners 2004 Hyundai
    Tom
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    2019 LC200 VX TTD (still love Pajeros)
    Sold - 2010 NT DID Activ, Ironbark, ARB Deluxe bullbar, OME lift, Cooper AT3s, Bushskinz bash plates, Dual batteries, Towpack, Prodigy P3, Scangauge II, MiVue 358 Dashcam, towing a 2015 Jayco Journey Outback

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    • littleriver
      Valued Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 3339
      • Queensland

      #3
      Originally posted by Tom52 View Post
      Try using some toothpaste on a rag (on a small area first) - it worked for my partners 2004 Hyundai
      Just remember to seal it or will fade pretty quick
      2012 PB Challenger LS (Manual) Safari Snorkel, OZtec shocks front & rear with King Springs (lift 2 inch) , 22 inch light bar on ECB Nudge bar, roof racks & basket, Bridgestone Duelers 697 LT A/T (116S), Uniden Dash cam, Oricom 2 way radio 80 channel, Ipod connected via glove box usb, Waeco cf50, Garmin gps (with topo), Opticoat + paint protection, Nilrust proofing, Roosystems Ecu Remap

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      • jimako
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 254
        • Hoppers Crossing VIC

        #4
        Use a fine grade wet and dry sandpaper with warm soapy water to get it cleaned up, then use a polishing compound.
        2013 MY13 VRX

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        • gaz1
          Valued Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 1411
          • Blue Mountains NSW

          #5
          I used Jif cream cleaner on the son's X-trail, did a great job but a few months later they had gone hazy again (not badly but definitely on the way) - what sort of sealant should be used after the cleanup?
          2010 MY 2011 VR-X V6. Stock standard.

          Previously 02 NM auto V6 Exceed silver. Extra transmission cooler & transmission temp gauge, activated rear lights, Impco sequential LPG system, Redback (Wildcat) Headers, heavy duty radiator. Lovells shocks F & R, Polyair bags in rear.

          My original Pajero experience - '90 NG Superwagon, 3.0 V6 manual bought new and kept until 1998. Great vehicle, no problems apart from the noisy valve lifters typical of that engine.

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          • NFT5
            Valued Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 1580
            • Canberra

            #6
            We do probably 3 sets a week in the shop.

            The problem is that the coating breaks down and allows the polycarbonate lens to degrade with exposure to UV.

            To restore all that needs to be taken off and the surface buffed until optically clear. As noted above, the kit type restoration kits generally include some kind of sealer but this is short term at best. Same with polishes and waxes

            To get long term protection the lens needs to be sprayed with a quality 2 pack urethane clear and then wetsanded to flat and buffed to clear. Done properly this should give you around 10 years' protection, much more if you use headlight protectors.

            The process isn't all that cheap at around $300/set but the longevity of the result and comparison with the cost of new lights at $1200 each for Gen4 makes it good value.
            Chris

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            • Allan2
              Senior Member
              • May 2013
              • 389
              • Mid Nort Coast, NSW

              #7
              I use Mothers plastic polish but like the others have said it only lasts a couple of months however it isn't hard to apply and polish off. There are lots of examples on youtube.
              Allan.
              2009 NT, 3.2 Auto, D/Lights & Light Bar, EGR mod, Sump and Inter Cooler Guards, Tow Bar, Bog Standard.

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              • Paj11
                Member
                • Jun 2017
                • 209
                • Sydney

                #8
                Originally posted by NFT5 View Post
                We do probably 3 sets a week in the shop.

                The problem is that the coating breaks down and allows the polycarbonate lens to degrade with exposure to UV.

                To restore all that needs to be taken off and the surface buffed until optically clear. As noted above, the kit type restoration kits generally include some kind of sealer but this is short term at best. Same with polishes and waxes

                To get long term protection the lens needs to be sprayed with a quality 2 pack urethane clear and then wetsanded to flat and buffed to clear. Done properly this should give you around 10 years' protection, much more if you use headlight protectors.

                The process isn't all that cheap at around $300/set but the longevity of the result and comparison with the cost of new lights at $1200 each for Gen4 makes it good value.
                If you had to buy a over the counter product which would you get, mothers, McGuires, Rain X, they are all around 35 to 60 bucks, my lenses look more like that have been affected by sand and dust etching from WA and SA towing, there is no yellowing of the lens.
                2011 30th Anniversary NT, TME Tuned, 2 inch Billies/Dobs lift HD rear/MD front. Arb Deluxe Bar, Mitsi Tow bar, LRA Aux tank, Clearview Mirrors, Tekonsha Electric Brake Controller, iDrive, Manta 3 inch Turbo back Exhaust, Provent Catch Can, Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus 265/70/17 all corners plus spare, 9 inch iluminators, 7 inch Stedi reverse flood light, Rhino Rack, Kings Side Awning.

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                • Gr8 Big Bass
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 7
                  • Perth, Western Australia

                  #9
                  Rain X Kit

                  Hey Paj11,

                  My lenses were pretty well gone I thought, so I bought the Rain X kit and followed the instructions to the letter thinking "if I screw this up good enough, I will be able to justify purchasing replacements with the long haired general".

                  From memory, the kit has 3 grades of sandpaper to use with solution 1 (can't remember the name), a polishing liquid (where the magic happens after all the work) and a finishing solution
                  Never having done this before, I leaned into it quite a bit and was very thorough.

                  I was amazed with the results and reckon the kit has enough product to do a full restore 2, 3 or 4 times if your stingy.

                  2+ years on, I have noticed the hazing starting to reappear from where the black bull bar is closest to the lens (heat?), so will be doing this again with what is left of the kit shortly.

                  If you can get past paying more for the kit than a tube of toothpaste, it is worth it. Good luck!

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                  • NFT5
                    Valued Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1580
                    • Canberra

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Paj11 View Post
                    If you had to buy a over the counter product which would you get, mothers, McGuires, Rain X, they are all around 35 to 60 bucks, my lenses look more like that have been affected by sand and dust etching from WA and SA towing, there is no yellowing of the lens.
                    I wouldn't waste my money on any of those kits. Every one of them will leave the lenses scratched and unprotected. Note Gr8 Big Bass' experience with the RainX kit, where the problem has come back. In the shop we have a range of tools that most people don't have at home so we're able to remove the scratches and we have some very high quality polishes that will delay recurrence, but it will happen unless clearcoated.

                    Any wipe on / wipe off protection is unlikely to provide a layer more that 1μm. A urethane clearcoat, properly applied, will provide around 60μm and is specifically designed with UV blocking agents to protect the substrate to which it is applied. On the cheaper version of the restoration (without clear) we give the minimum required 3 month warranty. For lights that are clearcoated we'll give 10 years. Big difference.
                    Chris

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