Gen 3 DiD ECU Remap Now Available.

[Bitsamissin]

Guys,

Very good news.
My NP DiD auto is in having the ECU remapped by Horsepower Factory in Dandenong http://www.hp-f.com.au/

The process involves baseline dyno - removal of ECU - connecting direct to the ECU chip on bench unit - uploading software - re dyno - tweek/adjust - re-dyno repeat until fully optimized.
Each time a tweek/adjustment is needed the ECU is removed and put back on the bench to interface.
Mine is the first NM/NP they have ever done (they remap many 4x4's & high performance cars) so they wanted some extra time to optimize and record all the settings for future reference.
They said mine responded very well to the new baseline software - 10% extra power and 20% extra torque, they are very confident they can significantly improve those figures by having more time with it. Also commented that the Mitsi's run extremely lean so there is heaps of scope to adjust the AF ratio hence they want to see what it's capable of.
My vehicle is a NP 2006 DiD auto 3" exhaust, snorkel, EGR blank, running 32"s (265x75x16).
The technology used is from Europe - Alientech http://www.alientech-to.it/index.php/en/ using the K-Tag universal ECU protocol.
Cost is $1200 which includes before & after dyno results.
Interestingly they said about 50% of OBD2 compliant 4x4's require the ECU to be removed to be remapped (same procedure as above) as opposed to interfacing via the OBD port, the common rail Mitsi's are lucky that remapping can be done via the OBD port which makes the job easier (the price is the same either way though).
Car should be ready tomorrow so I'll update the thread with the final results.
In a few weeks my workmate Barry is sending his NP in for the same treatment.
We are both beside ourselves with excitement - it's a Clacker Jabber man power thing !!!!
When I got home from work this arvo the misses asks why I've got the work ute, I explained the situation and the reply was "yeah whatever as long as it doesn't blow up and cost a fortune to fix".
They will never understand secret Clacker Jabber stuff. ..................

So there now appears to be another power option for us non common rail guys who don't want a chip.

[psproule]

Book

Me

In!

[RUGGA]

Looks like I am going to be eating a lot of pop corn till tomorrow.

How many K's on your bus Bitsa?

[stevemc181]

Interestingly they said about 50% of OBD2 compliant 4x4's require the ECU to be removed to be remapped (same procedure as above) as opposed to interfacing via the OBD port, the common rail Mitsi's are lucky that remapping can be done via the OBD port which makes the job easier (the price is the same either way though).

I had a remap done on the Gen4 NW using Alientech and Ktag. They had to remove the ECU and couldn't do it via the OBD2 port.

[Bitsamissin]

Yep mine has done about 107,000 K's.

I'm sure he said the later Paj's (common rail) they do via the OBD2 port with another software package.
I'll double check with him when I pick the car up tomorrow.

[Phil]

Good to hear someone has cracked a non common rail ECU open.

Can't wait for some figures stevemc181.

So who in Sydney can do this, not that happy with my Tunit chip.

[stevemc181]

Can't wait for some figures stevemc181.

My post above was regarding a Tune on a common rail NW I had done a while back, I saw an 11% increase in HP and 15% Increase in Torque on mine, but keep in mind I do not have a 3" exhaust or better intercooler etc so I asked them for a conservative tune. If I had the exhaust etc, we could have extracted a lot more out of it safely.
I was lucky as mine was done for free as a forum goodwill gesture by Infinitech related to this post here: http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/...t=39540&page=6

I am sure Bitsamissin will post up some before and after Dyno results. You need to take the actual figures with a grain of salt and just concentrate on the % of power/torque increase from stock to tuned. Every Dyno will pump out different figures.

[Bitsamissin]

Ok got the car back this arvo.
Here is a facebook link to Diesel Tuning Australia (Horsepower Factory) with the dyno results of my Paj and a bit of a write up.

https://www.facebook.com/DieselTuneAustralia/

To add to my facebook comments after just spending some more time driving it is that the boost really comes on quickly (I have a boost/EGT gauge) the turbo spools up so much faster now straight off idle - the boost gauge rockets up.
The boost level has remained the same - 20psi.
EGT's don't seem any different.
No black smoke at all.
No obvious side effects.
Seems a bit smoother at idle and a bit quieter allround (although this could be my imagination).
Don't ask me about economy if I was interested in that I would own a cubby house size hybrid death trap. However based on throttle position vs power if driven reasonably I think it would be a bit better on juice.
End result is a calculated 135 Kw (11% increase) & 467 Nm (25% increase).
Remember mine is running 32" muddies which will have a big effect on the dyno readings but as stated above it's the % gain that's important.
Very happy with the result.

[Phil]

My post above was regarding a Tune on a common rail NW.

Sorry was meant for Bitsamissin, but you must be happy with those figures.

Anyone in Sydney doing this yet.

[basil]

ECU Reflash

It has been a long two weeks to wait, but I finally had the ecu reflash done by the horsepower factory here in Dandenong.
Well all I can say is that it is a different beast to drive now.
It has done exactly what I wanted it to do and more.
Taking off from a standing start is a lot better than standard. It fells like it wants to go now with very little throttle travel compared to normal.
Power is available at very low revs and a wall of torque ensues if you want it.
I have never really noticed the front lifting if you boot it, but now it does especially at lower speeds.
I live in the hills and on the way home I found myself approaching bends a little quicker than normal, even though I wasn't trying to.
An extra 100 odd Nm's of torque when required is a bit of a luxury to have but it is where the power is available which puts a smile on my face.
People who tow will enjoy the power delivery.

If you are even contemplating such a mod now that this ecu has been cracked, then I don't think that you will be sorry in any way. Does it suddenly become a race car, of course not. It will however put a smile on your dial I'm sure. Comparing where the stienbauer chip makes it's power gains verses the ecu reflash, it is at opposite ends of the scale. The reflash brings the power in very early in the piece compared to the power being available as revs increase with much less being available off idle.

We have been thinking about chips for a long time but after speaking to Matt at the HPF, he was insistant that if they could relash the ecu on the np, then we would be far better off when tuning on the dyno taking into account all the available information running in the ecu. He was right, even though they sell the chips.

Bitsa and I have had the same reflash and we are both happy with it.
Long live the clacker jabber.

Cheers,

[bacon]

Sorry was meant for Bitsamissin, but you must be happy with those figures.

Anyone in Sydney doing this yet.

MRT Concord ?

[Axis]

This thread got me thinking again about having the NS tuned. Good to see the initial feedback. I called Matt and he was very helpful. Cost appears to be competitive in market. The only thing is being a manual he suggests an HD clutch with the tune. I think ours is still the original and have been thinking of changing it out for a while.... Now how to get approval from the Mrs....

[Stroker]

Hi Bitsamissin and Basil

Have you noticed any difference (improvement) in gear changes? I,m assuming you have autos

Cheers Glenn

[RUGGA]

.... Now how to get approval from the Mrs....

Much quicker and easier to ask for forgiveness

[basil]

It is funny but the auto seems to change a litte quicker if anything and it feels better.
Mine used to change into third very smoothly almost a little slow if I was to be picky. Mind you I don't lead foot it everywhere normally, in fact quite the opposite so the ecu would have learned my driving style and responded to it.
We were talking about it this morning and both have the same conclusions with the auto. Feels a bit sharper in it's changes.
I also noticed last night that sitting on say 95-100 on the freeway the converter doesn't flair quite as easily as before when a slight rise appears.
Less throttle for the same speed has to be the reason.
Will be interesting to monitor as time goes by.

Cheers,