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  • Downunder35m
    Valued Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2047
    • Near Melbourne

    GPS software for Android

    I' awaiting the delivery of my new testing platform.
    This time a 7" Android GPS tablet.
    Some might have noticed that I already provided a few tuts for map making as well as some maps (more to follow ).
    I need to install a few programs for testing purposes mainly, and for the fun on the tracks in particular.
    So I was wondering if anyone would be interested in some test results?
    Currently planning on IGO, Tomtom, OZI, Navionics and Androzic.
    Still searching for other free mapping alternatives with offline routing.
    Main focus will be on usabilty, road tests and performance.
    Not meant to be a byuers guide, just for information.

    First test....
    Installed Tomtom1.1.1, Androzic and Ozi 1.20.
    Tomtom works almost as I was used to from my 730 but a few things are still missing like the maps (still one season behnd), speed cam warnings and a better menu style.
    Navigation works fine so far and it looks good on the big screen.
    I used the AU computer voices and although it does not sound too bad it still has problems pronouncing some local names.
    Overal I would say the software appears to be still in a beta phase as too many loved features are not working.
    You can use third party cams but still only a visual and no audio warning possible.
    So far I have not found a direct way to transfer my favourites off my 730, only good way is converting them into a POI group and to create a corresponding bmp.
    Have not checked that part out yet as I still mainly use the 730 for on road use.
    One thing I really miss is the hands free feature for the phone, so unless you use a phone for navigation TT on android can't support calls.

    Androzic was amazingly easy to install and accepted all settings and maps I added.
    User interface seems to be a bit easier than Ozi, but than again, Ozi can be modified and it's only a personal preference.
    Big downside, mostly for NZ users is the fact that many datums are not supported, NZDG200 for example is unknown.
    Aside from the fact that on their website they copied the instructions for OZI's data file (they even kept "OziExplorer" in the text), there is no real help on creating custom datums.
    All my attempts to create the correct values for a new datum resulted in disaster, something to do for the cold winter days....

    Ozi in the current 1.20 beta works suprisingly stable and even accepted the path the the Androzic map folder, so no map doubles needed - saves a lot of memory
    You get most of the things you are used to but definately all you need for good off road mapping and navigation.
    The user interface can be custumised using the Ozi Screen designer (website) but I did not look into it yet.

    Oruxmaps was only briefly tested as it, like Androzic, refused several of my maps due to missing datum/projection details in the program.

    From the quick tests I would say Androzic, Ozi and Orux don't really compete - test them and if you like it use it.
    Only downside is the missing support for some maps but that could be compensated by converting the maps into different datum/projection combinations.
    Problem with that is that some maps will end up distorted, does not affect the accuracy if done properly but affects the look of the map badly.
    I guess Androzic will improove faster than Ozi and there already plans to at least the NZ details into a new release.
    If you like the online features that Ozi's competitors offer you might even prefer them, but IMHO nothing beats proper maps you made yourself unless you pay top dollar, for example for Hema or Rooftop maps.

    Navionics was a double sided experience...
    Just because you ordered the east side of AU does not really mean you actually get it.
    After installing you are prompted to download the map area you need.
    So far so good I though...
    Selected the areay from cape Otway to the eastern boarder of Vic, including Tasmania.
    Download was less than 8mb which was confusing.
    After checking the map it was only a basic map without any real detail.
    While checking I was asked if I wanted to download a ore detailed map, hell yes I want!
    Tried again with the same region and the program complained the selection is too big, not that it is eays to get the box to the size you want - most of the time all attempts to make it smaller or bigger are refused.
    At last I settled for Port Phillip and the heads and the program stopped complaining.
    Next download was a bit over 3mb and included only the south part of the bay
    Took me over 12 tries to finally get the Port completely, between I always had to delete the program data as it would otherwise refuse the download with the comment that I already got the most detailed map for that ares ***frustration***
    Finally I got it all only to notice the level of detail is actually below the level of my self made map.
    Depth contours are mostly missing and the depth markers are far too wide spread to be of use for finding a reef for example.
    Since the main use is aimed for navigation needs I guess they took a shortcut on the detail level.
    Overlays or additional depth profiles are not available
    Asker some chats with the support they said if I would ever feel the need for a tour along the coast a download for the complete map can be created in my account.
    Due to the volume of data this "extra" is rarely used according to Navionics.
    Next Snapper season will tell if the program is any good, hopefully they will supply some updates in the meantime.
    Last edited by Downunder35m; 29-03-13, 07:52 PM. Reason: Added infos
    '94 2.8TD, 2" lift, low mount winch, bullbar, roofrack, UHF, custom drawers, HID spotties, cam, GPS....
    Password for all my files: downunder
  • jcd
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 298
    • Gold Coast

    #2
    I have also had a play with Orux maps :- http://www.oruxmaps.com/index_en.html

    as it can use Shonky maps. The interface is a little cluttered but it seems to work OK.

    Bye Jeff.
    NS Pajero SWB R, Diesel, Automatic, BFG AT/KO's, AirTech Snorkel, LRA Auxillary Tank, Dual Batteries, Thule Aerobars & Roof Box.

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    • Downunder35m
      Valued Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 2047
      • Near Melbourne

      #3
      Had no chance to use Orux at all, since you did, would it be possible for you to make a few screenshots and post your experience with the program?
      Also some info on the supported map system would be great.
      I admit that it would save me the time to do the test, so I thank you in advance
      '94 2.8TD, 2" lift, low mount winch, bullbar, roofrack, UHF, custom drawers, HID spotties, cam, GPS....
      Password for all my files: downunder

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      • Downunder35m
        Valued Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2047
        • Near Melbourne

        #4
        First test is done, results in the first posting.
        Further findings will be posted there as well to keep it all in one place.
        '94 2.8TD, 2" lift, low mount winch, bullbar, roofrack, UHF, custom drawers, HID spotties, cam, GPS....
        Password for all my files: downunder

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        • HSV Rangie
          Valued Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1340
          • Hastings

          #5
          Aquired a Samsung Tab 2 10.1 yesterday.

          Loaded Ozi onto it and all the maps I had, had to convert some old oz2 to the newer oz3/4 all appear to be working.

          MIchael.
          2016 NX,GLS,DID,Auto. Rear DL, ARB deluxe BB, Warn winch, Safari Snorkle, Tow bar, Redarc tow pro, Front door windows tinted, Traxide SC80 dual battery system, Rino roof bars, Icom IC440 UHF, Lovells HD + 50mm springs all round, ????? shocks and struts, Proclip & Strike phone mount.

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          • psproule
            Valued Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 3680
            • Googong, NSW

            #6
            Just started running Androzic on a $249 9.6" Aldi tablet and am very impressed at how easily it all went. I was going to install Ozi for Android having run it on other devices but now I'm not sure of the need to.

            Pat
            2016 Mitsubishi NX Pajero GLX
            2011 Landrover Freelander II SD4

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            • Downunder35m
              Valued Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2047
              • Near Melbourne

              #7
              As long as you don't have any maps with unsupported datum or projections it makes not much of a difference.
              However Ozi supports over 200 while the other programs level out between 40 and about 70 supported datum/projection combinations.
              For example NZ maps in their original datum and projection are refused by both Androizic and Oruxmaps.
              But at least for Androzic they promised an update to include it.
              '94 2.8TD, 2" lift, low mount winch, bullbar, roofrack, UHF, custom drawers, HID spotties, cam, GPS....
              Password for all my files: downunder

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              • Whiteknuckle
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 23
                • Wagga

                #8
                Hey guys, sorry to dig up an old thread but this is something Im really interested in. now its a year on from this conversation, I thought there may be more to add. I will probably be getting http://www.hitv.com.au/product.htm?a...ch&page=idroid this. So will be fully android capable. Was looking at mud maps.

                Thanks,

                WK

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                • Sandy Paj
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 29
                  • Western District/UAE

                  #9
                  I will be interested in this as well, trying to get something working well on a blackberry playbook. I need to convert the APK files to BAR files to run on playbook.

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                  • j3st3r
                    Valued Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 445
                    • Mildura

                    #10
                    Heading down to Kyneton over the June long weekend and was seeing what around the area, I found Lerderderg State forest so jumped on the Parks Victoria website and came across an app called Avenza PDF Maps for Android or Iphone I haven't had a chance to play with it yet but may be worth a look.

                    Browse over a million digital maps in the Avenza Map Store! Download them for use in the Avenza Maps app to enjoy hiking, biking, hunting, offroading, and more.
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