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Rexy
08-09-08, 02:29 AM
There appears to be no stretch in the snatch.

Maybe a winch extension:dunno[1]:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJQo9ro9cAc

No Stretch + Multiple Attempts = Breakage

:disappointed[1]:

icysyrup
08-09-08, 02:37 AM
Looks to me like the strap broke not the tow point.

Rexy
08-09-08, 02:45 AM
I presume the person posting the vid filmed it and they tittled it as a Paj tow point failure..???

I dont know what countrty it was but doubt its Aus.

Edit : They are Canadian

icysyrup
08-09-08, 02:53 AM
Correct me if i am wrong someone...but I am still skeptical that it was a tow point failure. Seems to me like the strap, but its hard to be conclusive with the video not showing it clearly.

OnPatrol
08-09-08, 12:34 PM
The strap looks like it was connected to one side of the Pajero, rather than the centre. If that's the case then it was connected to the tie-down point; not a recovery point.

Ranger J
08-09-08, 12:39 PM
The strap looks like it was connected to one side of the Pajero, rather than the centre. If that's the case then it was connected to the tie-down point; not a recovery point.

What he said, I (stupidly) use them once (when i first got the paj and had no hitch pin) and they gave way, luckily though I had a bridle setup which prevented it from going airborne.

Pickle
08-09-08, 04:32 PM
I reckon the strap broke!
Dave

Smocky
08-09-08, 04:55 PM
I reckon strap broke too. Otherwise it would have come back with WAY more momentum. I've seen one break and it's not pretty.

Also agree that it doesn't look like a snatch strap either. Snatch straps have a surprising amount of give in them.

Still some safety lessons there though, everyone should be at least 1.5 times the length of the strap away from both vehicles and don't just try and try and try again until something breaks. Need to assess after each attempt. Stop and re-assess.

Smocky.

JoshF
08-09-08, 06:37 PM
I am not sure it was a snatch strap, it looked more like a tow strap as I saw very little elasticity in this video between the vehicles, even more reason for the harder take off to break the strap

Wal
08-09-08, 06:56 PM
This guy had the strap attached to one side of his vehicle on a loose surface. As soon as strain was put on the tyres on the opposite side lost traction resulting in this guy going sideways all the time. He didn't have a @#$%ing clue how to do recovery! Nothing to do with the Paj and all to do with the @*$#@*$#@*$#@*$#wit behind the wheel.

nj swb
08-09-08, 07:09 PM
Pretty short strap, and when it finally let go there didn't appear to be a lot of energy stored in it, so I'd agree that it doesn't appear to be a snatch strap - more likely a tow strap / extension strap.

Right hand drive, but looks like NH diesel shorty? Where would it be? UK?

CeeJay
08-09-08, 07:15 PM
Can't be UK, sun's shining! Licence plates are wrong too. South Africa maybe?

RovingTech
08-09-08, 10:13 PM
The profile of the person who posted the video lists him to be in Canada.
He also posted a few other video clips

mongoose
10-09-08, 11:05 PM
sounded like yanks to me (no comment for fear of upsetting fellow forumites)
gee that guy should really learn how to drive and not blame his vehicle.
Its twits like that who give pajeros a bad name.

cheers
Adrian

4eP
11-09-08, 12:37 AM
Can't be UK, sun's shining! Licence plates are wrong too. South Africa maybe?

Nah! We snatch the way we play Rugby! Properly!
:p

Futsal1st
12-09-08, 02:42 PM
This was most definately mechanical failure. The nut behind the wheel.

Walker
12-09-08, 04:41 PM
I was speaking to a guy at work who had the recovery point on his pajero fail last week. I think he has a NM Pajero, it had the recovery point which bolts on the back.
They were out near Geelong when he got stuck in a boghole in a quarry. His mate in a 2 week old Navara said he would snatch him out. The Paj driver said just a gentle pull was all that was needed but the Navara driver insisted on a flat out wheel spinning snatch.
The bolts on the recovery point sheared off and it ended up in the back of the Navara, making a nice big dent. :clap2[1]::clap2[1]:

They then attached the snatch strap to the towbar and gently pulled him out! :beer[1]:

nj swb
13-09-08, 10:25 AM
The bolts on the recovery point sheared off and it ended up in the back of the Navara, making a nice big dent. :clap2[1]::clap2[1]:

There must be more to this story. I don't doubt that the recovery point came off, but to shear four high tensile bolts which are over 10mm in diameter? With a snatch strap? No.

Something else had previously happened to stress the bolts. My guess would be somebody lubricated the threads and then over-tightened them.

If those bolts were properly installed the loop would fail before the bolts shear.

Yonnee
13-11-08, 03:24 PM
There must be more to this story. I agree I don't doubt that the recovery point came off, but to shear four high tensile bolts which are over 10mm in diameter? With a snatch strap? No.

Something else had previously happened to stress the bolts. My guess would be somebody lubricated the threads and then over-tightened them.

If those bolts were properly installed the loop would fail before the bolts shear.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the NM doesn't have a tow point at the rear of the car. They have two tie-down points for vehicle transportation.
It's more likely to be an NL, (or any Gen 2) and then I wonder if it had a towbar fitted that used the tow point mounts. If longer bolts weren't put in, that would explain why the tow point could fail on a Gen 2 Pajero.